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A 'Hothouse' Future for Humanity: Scientists Behind Terrifying Climate Analysis Hope They Are Wrong


A 'Hothouse' Future for Humanity: Scientists Behind Terrifying Climate Analysis Hope They Are Wrong

Jon Queally, staff writer

Warning of a possible domino effect as multiple climate feedback loops are triggered within a dynamic cascade of rising temperatures and warming oceans, scientists behind a frightening new study say that for the sake of humanity's future that the scenarios explored in their new models do not come to pass.


Put the fire out! Yes I’m talking about catastrophic climate change.

If you can’t put it out, think in terms of achieving 20% containment for now. Be a responder if you can.

Our responders need better equipment. Precisely how, you engineers out there, are we going to replace the use of natural gas for heating homes, and can this solution include the solar heat falling on the house’s roof? Precisely how are we going to generate electricity after dark? (storing solar heat again?) How are we going to clean up our (inherently badly designed) car-strangled freeway system? Next, how are we going to ameliorate the Arctic meltdown? Can we cut beef feedlot methane emissions, or can we store cow poop by freezing it to use it for power when the sun isn’t shining?


Why isn’t everyone shouting this from the rooftops? That’s because, as Hunter Thompson so succinctly wrote many years ago, “We are all on a survival trip now.”
We know what the problem is. We know how to solve it. Most people are just so overwhelmed by life in this bleak 21st century that they are just living day to day now. The mere thought of worrying about 10, 20, or even 50 years down the road is beyond them.
We are witnessing the perfect storm of our coming demise. And no, there is nothing we can do to stop it now. There is only the possible mitigation of the worst effects. We are in a global triage situation. Try to stop the bleeding. Save as many as we can. Hope we can regroup and move forward on an earth who’s weather will be very hot and very unpredictable.


Oligarchs own representative democracy world-wide. Modern capitalism depends on plastic. Strike at plastic and you are working on the commercial heart of the beast.

Can we practice using autonomous democracy to boycott plastic? Little things add up; like don’t by cotton tip ear cleaning swabs that use little plastic straws instead of cardboard to hold the cotton tips.


I just heard that a common plastic garbage bag, when exposed to direct sunlight, will outgas methane. Multiply that by the amount of plastic bits in the environment—Pacific Gyre, anybody?—and we could be talking about a LOT of methane having nothing to do with our dietary preferences.

All in all, it looks pretty bleak.


Recorded 50 years ago* in Odessa, Texas:

*when music had meaning and melody


The rubicon has been passed. Feedback loops are already underway. The great Climate unraveling is only going to accelerate now. The 2020’s will be the decade of global panic as the collapse of ecosystems accelerate. I wish I was wrong…


According to some we have less than 9 years before the 6th extinction will be complete. Let me repeat, will be complete. Why is it so hard to understand the word COMPLETE?


Not a single “progressive” elected official in US or EU Nations is honest about severe lifestyle mandated limits, ie, no air travel, that will moderate a certain and devastating blow to a prosperous, connected, relatively well-fed world. If I err, please correct.

Perhaps social and constitutional democracies cannot handle a survival set of decisions that will be highly unpopular?


You can’t talk about the climate without adding in climate engineering, SRM-- solar radiation management etc , geoengineering,-- this is not to say all the other factors that are screwing up the planet.

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/massive-us-senate-document-on-national-and-global-weather-modification/ This document was put out in 1978.


This song might have meaning, but it sure doesn’t have much melody. It pretty much drones along, but that makes it a more horrifying song.


That is the purpose of its melody, the conveyance of the horror of the human trajectory. By contrast:


What is described here seems like a definite possibility and even the Paris Climate Accord assumes that 2C will be surpassed but removing CO2 from the atmosphere will get the temperature below 2C by the end of the century. The composition of the US population really makes effective action to stay below 2C impossible. The US is by far the wealthiest country in the world, is number one in scientific resources, and would have to play a key role in any successful effort. But the US has a unique population on the right side of the political spectrum which makes effective action possible. Most this population consists of racists, religious evangelicals, and anti-government types with their militias. Our really only hope is that this analysis turns out to be wrong and even if we reach 3-4C civilization will still be able to function. We have to hope these feedbacks do not kick in after 2C as this study suggests could happen.


“We are in control…” Ha! So, tell me, who is “in control” of the climate and the sixth extinction? Where is the “Climate Czar” with the authority to make the changes that have been called for and ignored for decades?

No one is in charge of this because it is not possible to be in control of the environment. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. I say again, “HA!”


The fossil fuel industry receives a lot of criticism these days, and rightfully so. But in the final analysis, we are the ones who support the energy industry and it is our standard of living that will need to change. So contemplate what you can do for the cause

Personal Actions

End our love affair with the automobile

Ride more trains and buses

Car pool

Walk and bike more

Turn off the air conditioner in the summer and dial the thermostat down in winter

Become vegetarians or vegans

Refill plastic bottles with tap water

Discontinue using aluminum cans with and without carbonation

Maximize use of reusable bags and products

Recycle junk mail

Forego fast junk food

Go to “slow food”;

Recycle maximally, especially aluminum cans

Drive and accelerate more slowly

Climb more stairs

Plant more trees

Forego use of spray cans

Ride more trains and buses

Repair, mend and alter as much as possible

Buy solar panels

Compost as much as possible

Last person out of the room turn off the lights

Eat and farm organic

Ride more trains and buses

Fly fewer planes

Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings

Use manual tools instead of power tools

Share more

Use rakes rather than leaf blowers

Decrease use of bottled water and refill plastic bottles with tap water

Maximize reusable bags and products

Push rather than power small mowers

Replace lawns with vegetable gardens

Stop fertilizing and mowing lawns

Compost as much as possible

Minimize use of disposables (Pampers);

Maximize high efficiency LED and solar powered lighting;

Limit endless gadgets

Use motion lighting, where appropriate

Decrease consumption

Limit family size

Local Government Actions

Reorganize cities, building taller residences with a smaller footprint (the end of suburbia)

Institute a carbon tax

Promote car pooling subsidize and expand mass transit

Expand bike paths

Have shareable (zip) cars

Ban electric outdoor signs;

Eat and farm organic

Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings

Eliminate approximately 50% of all street lighting and office lighting in unoccupied buildings

eliminate “fast junk food”; go to “slow food


Federal Government Actions

Ban gasohol

Rein in the militaries for defense only and outlaw war

Discontinue night baseball

Make electronics, house wares, furniture, etc to be as durable and long-lived as possible

Recycle maximally

Make appliances to be as energy efficient as possible

Discontinue aluminum cans

Ban electric outdoor signs

Maximize solar and wind power;

Change from petroleum based fertilizers to regenerative agriculture

Reverse deforestation, plant more trees

Restrict spray cans

Promote conference calls and web cams, fewer meetings

Promote zero population growth with free condoms and family planning world-wide

End yearly auto model changes;

Proscribe junk mail

Scrap the mission to Mars

Adjust tax laws to limit family size

Promote limiting world population growth


While the poster above touched on it, let’s talk about the real, core underlying issue to most of our environmental and immigration problems facing us - human overpopulation. The idea of allowing our population to “level out” at 9 billion is a horrifying prospect. First of all, I don’t think we would get to that point with any kind of habitable planet. We have way, way overshot our sustainable population level several times. It really should be a pre-Industrial Revolution less than 2 billion. I don’t care about the personal rights violations necessary to get there (forced abortions, sterilizations and fertility lotteries), but if we don’t drastically lower our human population there will not be a world worth living in for the future. If you think that we can occupy every square mile of land on this planet, then maybe you need to get dropped into a desert or on top of a mountain in winter. Those who talk about a “right to life”, should also believe that every other species also has a right to live on this planet, and that a majority of the larger species are in steep population decline and in danger of extinction. Human overpopulation is the single most important issue facing us, one that we refuse to talk about, and that silence will be the end of us all.


A few other things: buy powder dishwater detergent as it usually comes in cardboard boxes. Also go back to bar soap. It, too, is usually packaged in paper.


The key statement is, “Collective Human action is required”. Not personal, not even national. Most, if not all of humanity must, somehow, join together and act to counter this existential threat. I’m inclined to say, Fat chance, we’re doomed. but not so! We have the internet–instant world-wide communications; jet travel–around the world travel in a day. Many well-meaning groups are working hard for change. We just need to bring it all together. But how? That’s the question of the day.



That song used to give me chills. Now it makes me feel like shedding tears…