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A New Year's Day Parade for 'Medicare for All' Signals Energized Battle Ahead in California

No I haven’t, it’s all just a dream with out funds. I am weighted down with CC debt just like most. I really am stuck, I can’t even move within AZ now :frowning:

Sounds like you need able helpers. A lot of people leave CA when they retire for a lower cost of living. Not sure where I would choose because it does get more complicated as we age and so on. Not impossible though.

I really like Washington not so much Oregon. It’s greener, wetter and maybe less people? “Able helpers”? what’s that? Never ever heard of such a thing, please explain (snark)…

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Well it is from the TAO Te Ching, a four thousand year old text. More to it than that but to paraphrase, if you are met with an obstacle there is something you need to do to connect with your higher self. Hence, you may need the help of others.

Medicare part D (prescriptions) is not original to Medicare, it is the privatized version that enables pharmaceutical abuses and costs. HRH 676 takes that to a whole new level without improving healthcare. It is still the most expensive and worst outcomes in the industrialized world.


fern –

I made no post on this discussion …

I think you intended this reply for Giovanna?

fern –

Wasn’t a good deal of CA’s surplus taken by Enron?

Can you expand on this? …

Iceland does not have the U.S. Federal government or Federally adjusted income that requires waivers.

Also … this?

Medicare and Medicaid are federal programs.

Thank you –

How “sane” has the US’ fake drug war been –
especially in increasing crime in every nation, including our own.

Drug addition has to be treated as a health issue – not a crime.

Corruption of the nation through drugs wouldn’t exist if our own government officials
weren’t involved in profiting from it one way or another.

Our Americans banks alone are “laundering” a half a trillion or more of drug money every year.

US is also “insanely” allowing Big Pharma to create a pile of addictive drugs from which they profit?

Despite the ongoing hostility from its opponents—which DeMoro identified as “establishment Democrats” and financial donors from the insurance and pharmaceutical industry, for-profit hospitals, right-wing operatives, and corporate interests—she says support for SB562 is only getting stronger.

A very clear message that there will be no help whatsoever coming from Democrat Party –
“the establishment Democrats” which is pretty much the entire party.

This is another signal that both the DP and the GOP are finished (if we want it!) …
and if we refrain from continuing to vote EVIL into office and control of our government by
"voting for the lesser evil."

Both national parties and their owners are complicit in catapulting corporations to power
over the “people’s” government.

What makes you think the current healthcare system encourages people to “start taking responsibility for their own health.”? I agree with you that this is a desirable result, and it is often claimed (and I agree) that a single payer system where everyone gets free checkups if anything is going to improve that situation. The idea that a financial disincentive (don’t eat right and your health care costs more) is necessary to improve public health sounds like an extrapolation of the strict parent model (which I am not opposed to completely) but unless you have a few studies to point to that it works, I’d rather go the single payer with no copay route.

Opps. sorry for the confusion. It was for Giovanna.

Just from memory, We had a 29 billion dollar surplus and in less than a year we had muti-billion dollar deficit. It was energy manipulation and fraud. If I remember collectly, we sued the Federal gov but only reclaimed a small amount.

fern –
Thanks for confirming a $29 BILLION SURPLUS in California turned upside down into a
multi-billion $$ deficit.

It was energy manipulation and fraud. If I remember correctly, we sued the Federal gov but only reclaimed a small amount.

You don’t mention ENRON and its crimes, but believe that’s what you’re confirming … right?

And as I recall it, a clean get-away was made by those in state government who had made these
decisions to invest so much of the state’s SURPLUS in ENRON also got off free?

There is zero stopping the Nurses from pursuing a ballot initiative if DeMoro is serious. Why doesn’t she sponsor one?

Yes, and the sudden rise in opioid addictions- addictions to medicines that big pharma develops is insane.

I agree that pols and banks are profiting through drugs. If they weren’t we would not have this problem. Also, money laundering through charter schools and private ones as well as other enterprises ( financial) does exist. How do we deal with this?

Yes, that would be nice. Perhaps if the US stopped bombing the world, we could concentrate on food and health care.

I do not think there is something wrong with that but where does all this money come from? Also, I have heard some working people say that some people on disability that they know who are disabled because they are depressed are making more money than some of the working people!

Feinstein is also opposing marijuana legalization in California and she went against impeaching Trump. I’d guess she had something to do with defeating state single payer in 2012 - she was ready to move very quick when that happened with her “insurance reform” (that didn’t do anything - premiums continued to rise by obscene percentages - and a lot more than 10 percent) -
and Pelosi even wrote legislation into the ACA, I’m understanding, that would make it harder to pass single payer at the state or national levels.They’re both taking so much money from insurance and pharma while basically singing the same tune as Clinton, “Single payer will never, ever happen!”

Time to vote both of them out. They’re pretty tough to topple, though. People need to be organizing, uniting and working at it a lot more in order to do so.

Hearing you. Right now, she has at least 3 “progressive” challengers, 2 of whom (at least) aren’t taking corporate cash. That’s Stephen Jaffe on the Democratic Party ticket and Barry Hermanson (sic?) running as a Green (long-time HR676 advocate). But I think either would need a lot more momentum to win.Which is pretty sad considering the fact that these are liberal and educated areas where most people want single payer health care - and probably pride themselves on being able to think and act outside the herd (and change the direction of the herd?)