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ACLU Threatens Action over McCarthy-Era Loyalty Oath for Teachers


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ACLU Threatens Action over McCarthy-Era Loyalty Oath for Teachers

Sarah Lazare, staff writer

The Nebraska chapter of the ACLU is threatening to sue one of the state's public school districts over its invocation, for the first time in decades, of a McCarthy-era state law that requires employees to sign an oath of "love and devotion" to the United States.


#2

The article does not indicate why Kauze is bringing up this old law out of the blue?


#5

Please tell me that this is an Onion article...


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Once again an ignorant hyper jingoist trying to cram his version of patriotism or "proper values" down the throats of fellow citizens without bothering to find out if what he is doing is legal, constitutional or appropriate. We live in strange times indeed. The forces of evil and stupidity seem to be more powerful than ever.


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A quibble, I admit but there is a difference. Here we'll sing "Dollar, Dollar Uber Alles,", wear $ armbands instead of swastika armbands and when we give the straight arm salute we'll be required to shout "Big Smile" instead of "Sieg Heil". But again, I quibble.
Peace
Po


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So let's take a closer look at what this oath actually says. Teachers are required to have:

"...(2) a knowledge of the history of the nation and of the sacrifices that have been made in order that it might achieve its present greatness," Ok, say teachers should understand and students should learn about the sacrifices of Native Americans who were exterminated and whose land was stolen, about an economy built on the cheap labor and inhumanity of slavery, about the sacrifices of peoples around the world subjugated by US militarism and support of oppressive dictators,just to name a few.

"...(3) a love and devotion to the policies and institutions that have made America the finest country in the world in which to live." See above about genocide, slavery, and imperialist foreign policy.

"...(4) opposition to all organizations and activities that would destroy our present form of government." So that must mean opposition to corporations and oligarchy that has destroyed the representative democratic form of government we are supposed to have since this Nebraska law was passed in 1951.

So bring it on, if they insist on forcing teachers to sign the loyalty oath.


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Sign ze paper old man.
What does the paper say?
Never mind what the paper says old man, sign it,
No!
OK, then we will persuade you to sign ze paper!
No, I won't sign!
Aaaagggghhhh!
Now old man sign ze paper . . . .
Never!
Aaaagggghhhhh!
Now . . . sign ze paper old man.
I can't.
WHY NOT!
Because . . . you Have broken all of my fingers!
Cheech & Chong "Paraphrased"

Ah yes, Amerika, land of the Soviet,
Home of the Fourth Reich!
Bet they never taught you that in Amerikan Indoctrination class, I mean History class!


#12

is it reaching too far to see this as an anti- "demon-socialist" move?? IE, let's keep that commie and his socialist agenda outta here. That's my reading on it.


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Pledge of Disobedience
(From OWS Summer Disobedience School)
We pledge disobedience
to the power of Wall Street
and the government of the 1 percent
One No
Many Yeses
Another world is possible
with liberty and justice for all.


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`
It's because Bernie is running. . .

The stage is being set -- so that if necessary,
the truly loyal, patriotic, flag-waving U.S. citizens can swift-boat Bernie
and any of his supporters
for being an unAmerican socialists.
`


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""...(4) opposition to all organizations and activities that would destroy our present form of government." So that must mean opposition to corporations and oligarchy "

no, no, no. our present form of government is an oligarchy/corporatocracy...


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You might want to check out the fallacy of Russell's teapot. The philosopher Bertrand Russell once said a teapot orbits the sun somewhere between the orbits of the Earth and Mars. He then said it is nonsense to believe him simply because you caannot prove the teapot doesn't exist. The burden of proof is always on the person making the claim.

You claim our government is an oligarchy/corporatocracy and then expect people to believe you because they cannot prove our government is not an oligarrchy/corporatocracy. It is logically impossible to prove a negative; i.e., you cannot prove there are no unicorns.


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Somebody told the superintendent about the law and the superintendent is apparently a stickler about obeying the law. Didn't the Nazis claim at Nuremberg that they were just following orders; i.e., they were obeying the laws of the Third Reich that mandated persecution of Jews.

The superintendents in Lincoln and Omaha are reasonable because they simply ignore the law.

You might want to check out the Milgram studies. Most people will act sadistically when ordered to do so by an authority figure. The superintendent has the same mindset as the morons who want to deport all undocumented aliens because they are breaking the law, even though this will tear apart families because children born in the US are citizens.


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Your lectures on fallacy get annoying, teapot laden or otherwise.

That said, I think it would be quite entertaining to see you have such dialogue with Princeton University professor Martin Gilens and Northwestern University professor Benjamin Page who coauthored the study "Testing Theories of American Politics:Elites, Interest Groups, and AverageCitizens"

http://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Here is an excerpt from the introduction for your learned consideration teapot laden or otherwise…

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism

Some more from their research paper for your cornsideration, teapot laden or otherwise…

The central point that emerges from our research isthat economic elites and organized groups representingbusiness interests have substantial independent impactson U.S. government policy, while mass-based interestgroups and average citizens have little or no independentinfluence. Our results provide substantial support fortheories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theoriesof Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of MajoritarianElectoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

Their conclusion that the Unicorn exists…

Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a wide-spread (if still contested) franchise. But we believe that if policy making is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.

Find the fallacies!!! Ready, set, Goofar!!!!


#21

Which all goes to prove that a USAian joke is no laughing matter.


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Love and devotion? Like not teaching sex education which has a helping hand in teen pregnancy? Or being armed while teaching classes? Yea, 'love and devotion'.


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One more thing: the pledge says to protect the gov't type, so lets get the facts. The CIA factbook is used in acacademics as a truth saying device. So if the pledge is used in academics, then its safe to say the CIA factbook would also be relevant here. Look up the US gov't type. And to be clear, a strong tradition in someones mind doesnt mean that it happens in the way someone thinks. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2128.html.


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Seems similar to George W. Bush mandate "if you don't agree with me you favor the terrorists". Have been disturbed for a long time now with the over emphasis of the ROTC and all things military in our public schools. When I went to school I learned Civics and we even had school government with students in charge and at home outside school we had Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts all with emphasis on democracy.