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After Brussels, Calls to Ditch Europe's Freedoms for Security


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After Brussels, Calls to Ditch Europe's Freedoms for Security

Lauren McCauley, staff writer

Just one day after the coordinated attacks in Brussels, the resounding cry from governments, media, and national security experts is that we need less freedoms and more security.

As they did in the wake of the Paris attacks, countries across the continent rushed to tighten border security in the immediate aftermath of Tuesday's bombings, which killed at least 34 people, striking the airport and a metro station.


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As long as those freedom restricting measures apply only to the demographic that perpetuates these acts. As soon as the terrorism acts stop the restrictions should be lifted.


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"What Will Save Humanity":..." God's New Revelation provides a warning, a blessing & a preparation for the Great Waves of change and for humanity's encounter with a Greater Community of intelligent life. These two great phenomena more than anything else will affect the future of humanity, the lives of every person in the world today and the future of their children."---- from the new Revelation: "What Will Save Humanity"- -- newmessage.org.


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"Our tolerance of electronic surveillance, subject to legal and parliamentary oversight, seems a small price to pay for some measure of security against threats that nobody—today of all days—can doubt are real."

At least he chose the word "seems" and didn't use "is." Good choice, Mr. Hastings.

Whether or not the threats are 'real' is not where any doubts are to be found. Attacks happen, they're very real, and they are on the rise. Doubts are entirely warranted in regards to what we're told of the who and the why behind these attacks, and what must be done to stop them... especially when the stakes are so high.

Assuming this was carried out by radicalized Muslims, what would it have taken to coordinate this attack? Here's what: Two guys meet up in a park in Brussels without their phones as they know better than that. One says, "let's blow up some stuff." The other says, "sounds good... how about the airport and the metro? How's March 22nd sound?" The one says, "that works for me. I'll make the up the devices in my apartment and meet you here at the same time next week to give you yours and show you how to detonate it. We'll figure out what time to attack then and sync our watches." The other replies, "awesome, looking forward to it. See you next week."

How would accessing encrypted communications, increasing CCTV surveillance, snooping on everyone's phone calls and emails, facilitating more information exchange between security bureaucracies and restricting the free movement of people around Europe have prevented this 'coordination' of the attack? The short answer is, it wouldn't have. Preventing attacks is not what these changes are about. Nobody likes to point out that the more of these changes that are made, the more frequent the attacks seem to come. But hey, at least it would be 'subject to legal and parliamentary oversight'... so we can all breath a sigh of relief. There's none better to entrust the freedoms your ancestors have struggled and died for than lawyers and self-serving bureaucrats.


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A fascist police state will be a more effective tool in the event of a likely neocon planned war with Russia. After all wasn't that the real reason for creation of EU? Single currency, single central bank TTIP, NATO all to later be used to serve the Zionist global empire.


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Right, but that's not likely the plan, once a police state always a police state. Only after a very bloody event will the elites give up power.


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Public Surveillance has more to do with identifying the so called anti establishment radicals than ISIS or al qaeda. Information on our movements, what we read, whom we associate with, our habits our weaknesses and strengths and everything else can all be gathered into a huge database for behavior prediction and modification among other uses. The elite Zionists neocons are busy employing daily the Edward Bernays techniques of human behavior modification.


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These could also be mini 911's designed to stun people into willingly surrounding their freedom and autonomy. After all in all these so called terrorist attacks only the ordinary people are dying not anyone the hegemonic empire considers significant. Even if they are orchestrated by the "terrorists" the blame squarely belongs to the state for having participate in the mindless brutal genocidal murderous campaigns of neocon conquering zealots.


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As in the "Patriot Act"?
Have any of the candidates for President talked about ending this, or the AUMF or any of the other Draconian Laws put in place- And then there was the oh so suspicious 9-11 "Investigation" that GW Bush and Dick Cheney refused to co-operate with-
What A crock of shit!!!!


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Did you mean to say "surrendering" instead of "surrounding"?


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What you've said is EXACTLY what I was alluding to with this. 'Zionists' is a word I don't touch, it gives the naysayers ammo to try to cut you down with. Simply 'the elite' works good enough for me.


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It's a feedback loop designed to consolidate power in elite hands:

  1. Launch imperialist plunder, eventually triggering terrorist blowback.
  2. Launch wars to eliminate terrorists, multiplying number of terrorists astronomically.
  3. Terrorists finally strike "homeland", or false flag makes it appear they have.
  4. Amp up surveillance, fear and paranoia.
  5. Go to step 1 or 2 and repeat process until entire world is militarized, totalitarian, surveilled dystopia where all dissent has been criminalized. Joyously stomp your fascist boot on face of humanity forever.

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Voting to end freedom -- freedom is now fascism, locked-down cities and communities.

Here in the US, we have 100,000 citizens being shot every year --
and 30,000 of them die.

Very profitable for Koch Bros-funded-NRA and weapons industry.

A gun sends a message all it's own -- it's OK to kill.

We also see this is a gun war on women -- almost every day another woman shot
and killed an intimate partner.


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Nobody has 'opted' for anything, some people (around the world especially the US) are calling for such but nothing has happened yet and an equal number or more oppose it. This article quotes a UKIP MEP, well UKIP hate the EU and free movement anyway and are always calling for immigration control and closure of borders, even before any terrorist attacks because they just don't like foreign people so obviously they see this as an opportunity to promote that view.


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So shitty little pariah state Israel is stomping on the free speech, free association, right to protest, right to boycott, and right of conscience of American college kids now? Everyone knows Israel would run every American with a conscience over with a bulldozer if America would provide them free bulldozers. FVCK ISRAEL!

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