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Agreed: Trump Either Did or Did Not Accept Putin's Denial of Alleged Election Interference


Agreed: Trump Either Did or Did Not Accept Putin's Denial of Alleged Election Interference

Andrea Germanos, staff writer

President Donald Trump met with Russian leader Vladimir Putin Friday on the sidelines of the Group of 20 (G20) Summit in Hamburg, Germany, but what exactly was said remains unclear.

One point of clarity is that the meeting was much longer than scheduled, running for over 2 hours instead of 30 minutes.


You actually quoted a corporate stooge.
That is depressing.


It is almost as if the entire "Russia meddled in our election" false narrative is a non-issue that distracts from the DNC's incompetence and more important problems plaguing the country.


Did anyone expect Putin to admit Russia interfered with the election? He was trained in the KGB. He knows how to keep state secrets. The main thing is that 17 US security agencies all say they found convincing evidence that the Russians did interfere and it is essential to get to the bottom of this whatever that will reveal. We need to know if Russia did interfere and whether Trump or his associates were in collusion in some way.


DNC's incompetence...take a closer look: GOP MALFEASANCE

And Russian interference in our election brought us into the Gates of Hell lead by the Diabolical Dimwit (with orange hair, a very mean streak, a Fonzi '80's hairdo with gel and hairspray, and a Trash Tribe of nasty flying monkeys...family members included).


Stop it, already...

FACT CHECK: Did 17 Intel Agencies ‘All Agree’ Russia Influenced The Presidential Election?

Verdict: False
“The [intelligence community assessment] was a coordinated product from three agencies: CIA, NSA and the FBI, not all 17 components of the intelligence community,” said former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper during a congressional hearing in May. “Those three under the aegis of my former office.”

"A handful of experienced analysts were chosen from the three agencies to investigate and draw independent conclusions."

No, Hillary, 17 U.S. Intelligence Agencies Did Not Say Russia Hacked Dem E-mails

What Clinton said was false and misleading. First of all, only two intelligence entities – the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) – have weighed in on this issue, not 17 intelligence agencies. And what they said was ambiguous about Russian involvement. An unclassified October 7, 2016 joint DNI-DHS statement on this issue said the hacks

...are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow — the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europa and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Saying we think the hacks “are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts” is far short of saying we have evidence that Russia has been responsible for the hacks. Maybe high-level officials would have authorized them if Russian hackers were responsible, but the DNI and DHS statement did NOT say there was evidence Russia was responsible.


"The main thing is that 17 US security agencies all say they found convincing evidence..."

LOL! You need to schedule an update to the info in your head:


What can possibly come out of meeting between an insane narcissistic sociopath and a megalomaniacal master sleuth/assasin both of which are pathogical prevaricators? Drivel, platitudes, how-do-you-do's, fine-thank-you's and arm-wrestling handshakes, that's what.


Somehow knowing that the Imbecile-in-Chief had a lengthy secret meeting with the ex-KGB who thinks of him as a useful idiot is not reassuring.


Or collusion to profit somehow and stroke their bloated egos.


Very carefully worded article that is very misleading: "Russia hacked into and distribute Democratic e-mails" Russian actions cannot be proven without a doubt because they used two different vehicles/avenues (tech) get into and then release the Podesta e-mails. Parry knows how to spin with the best.

A counterpoint:


Kunstler's take on the Russia/America imbroglio. For a change I mostly agree with him.



For us to be wasting our time reading about a "hack" you might think there had been an FBI investigation of the DNC servers. Oops, not so fast

"Since the FBI has never conducted an independent investigation – for as-yet-unexplained reasons, the DNC refused to grant it access to its servers despite multiple requests – the only evidence that a break-in even occurred comes from a private cyber-security firm, CrowdStrike Inc. of Irvine, California, that the DNC hired to look into the breach.

"Since when do the cops rely on a private eye to look into a murder rather than performing an investigation of their own? CrowdStrike, moreover, turns out to be highly suspect. Not only is Dmitri Alperovich, its chief technical officer, a Russian émigré with a pronounced anti-Putin tilt, but he is also an associate of a virulently anti-Russian outfit known as the Atlantic Council, a Washington think tank funded by the Saudis, the United Arab Emirates, the Ukrainian World Congress, the U.S. State Department and a variety of other individuals and groups that have an interest in isolating or discrediting Russia.

"The Atlantic Council puts out a stream of anti-Kremlin articles and reports with scary headlines like “Distract Deceive Destroy: Putin at War in Syria” and “Six Immediate Steps to Stop Putin’s Aggression.”

"Since the Atlantic Council is also a long-time supporter of Hillary Clinton, this means that the Clinton campaign relied on a friendly anti-Putin cyber-sleuth to tell it what everyone involved wanted to hear, i.e. that the Kremlin was at the bottom of it all. If this strikes you as fishy, it should."


Yes it was 17 agencies that concluded Russian hacked the e-mails. But even if there is room of a little quibbling basically US security agencies have concluded e-mails were hacked by Russia. Why are so many people defending Russia without any evidence to do so? Give it up already and support an independent investigation by Congress so maybe we can finally get to the truth.


What spin? What are you trying to say? Anyway, your PBS article provides no evidence. Where is the evidence? Considering all the leaks from the Deep States, you would think by now some actual evidence for the evil Russian meddling would have surfaced. As for the Podesta emails, we know--well, some of us know despite the U.S. media blackout--that it was a disillusioned DNC insider who leaked them. Former British diplomat Craig Murray knows this because he was involved in the matter.

Seeing this debacle unfold the way it has since the election, with the Hillary side propagating this utter nonsense makes me so, so glad I didn't vote for her. And it's caused this 35-year-long Democrat to recently change his party registration (and I'm sure many like me have done the same). Bye bye party of the neolibs/neocons.


Our government cannot play innocent victim about meddling in elections (very many since the end of WW II). The evidence that Russia interfered in our last election is more suspect than that they did.


Assuming that Trump is aware of the incontrovertible evidence that documents how the US government (under Obama) directly facilitated the illegal overthrow of the government of Ukraine a few yrs ago, we can only wonder whether Trump acknowledged any of this evidence to Putin, today, before he/Trump brought up the US complaint of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election......

Madness, lying, and hypocrisy all around.


Including here.


So long, good bye, adios.


A rather minor correction, not a retraction. Your "canard" is a canard.