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America’s Spiral Into Permanent War Seems More Foolish Than Ever


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America’s Spiral Into Permanent War Seems More Foolish Than Ever

Conn Hallinan

“We have fallen into a self-defeating spiral of reaction and counterterror,” writes Mark Danner in his new book Spiral: Trapped in the Forever War. “Our policies, meant to extirpate our enemies, have strengthened and perpetuated them.”

Danner — an award winning journalist, professor, and member of the Council on Foreign Relations who has covered war and revolutions on three continents — begins Spiral with the aftermath of a 2003 ambush of U.S. troops outside of Fallujah, Iraq.


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Agreed. However, Mr Halinan failed to mention the good ole' USA not only creates that terrorists they fight, they use them from time to time politically. In fact they fund them and look the other way while Saudi's and Qatar fund them.


#3

The use of the term "insurgents" for those fighting a foreign invader is Orwellian writ large.


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Mark Danner: " Our policies meant to extirpate our enemies, have strengthened and perpetrated them."

True Mark, but that is the whole idea! Behind the modus operandi of America's, military, industrial complex. If the US had no enemies, they would have to manufacture them..and that is exactly what they do!

Permanent war may seem foolish to you, but it is not foolish and also very profitable to the trillion $ war industry and it's war profiteers.


#5

It worth detailing how lucrative war and a permanent warfare state is for some small few. The costs of waging war and of weapon systems explodes exponentially. The only way to afford this in the current economic system is by cutting Social spending at home, running a given country into ever more debt to the banker class, or financing part of those costs via plundering the wealth of other nations.

Just as an example of these costs. There a new Naval vessel in the US Fleet that costs several billion per. The cost of a single shell fired by its main gun is 1 million dollars. This is not a missile , it is a shell.

The British Navy is in such dire straits it is removing all missile systems from its Naval Vessels. This means the only weapon systems will be a gun with a range of some 17 miles. Not only that but the F35 is so expensive they can only afford a handful for their new Aircraft Carriers. The carriers will be run a few years without aircraft.

That F35 itself is so expensive the USA is going to retrofit older aircraft to the tunes of billions of dollars just to get enough aircraft into the air. The F35 yearly maintenance costs will be some 40 percent higher per year then those older aircraft even though it brand new. This extra cost is expected to go UP. Generaly speaking when one goes "new" one of the reasons is because the item being replaced too expensive to maintain. The f35 boondoggle turns that on its head.

This "Permanent warfare state" is an endless flow of dollars and the peoples and the worlds wealth into their pockets. All of these "facts on the ground" and the trying to detail "how terrorists come about" and how these conflicts start are secondary to the real reason these wars waged and these conflicts stoked. It all about the money and how these conflicts ensure the money frlows endlessly from the people to the 1 percent that are running things.

War is the enemy of the people. All of us. A nation that promotes endless war can never be a Democracy. The more a nation spends on its Military, the less Democratic it becomes. These are MY observations.


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America is mad on war and celebrates everything military. We have become the invader, the occupier and the torturer we fought to defeat and lead international legal efforts to elimate from our world after WWll.


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From Mr. Danner:

“We have fallen into a self-defeating spiral of reaction and counterterror,” writes Mark Danner in his new book Spiral: Trapped in the Forever War. “Our policies, meant to extirpate our enemies, have strengthened and perpetuated them.”

Danner — an award winning journalist, professor, and member of the Council on Foreign Relations who has covered war and revolutions on three continents — begins Spiral with the aftermath of a 2003 ambush of U.S. troops outside of Fallujah, Iraq.

I don't know if we understand just how significant these statements are coming from a member of the Council of Foreign Relations. The CFR TELLs the Secretary of State what the hell to do. Rockefeller started this council as a bid to supplant the democratically elected Congress.

That there is a dissenting member of the CFR against WOT is the most significant optimistic thing I've seen in a long time. Now we just have to win over Skull and Bones, the Bilderberg group, the Cincinnati and a bunch of secret elite societies we don't even know about....

Otherwise, we join Greek, Roman, Spanish and Brittish Empire in falling.


#8

There will be permanent wars as long as there is a huge profit in it for the war industry.


#9

War could be stopped overnight if shareholders of the war machine would divest and if we refused to pay taxes for it. Why don't they? Why don't we?


#10

For shareholders to divest, they have to have someone to sell the shares to. This leads to more and new shareholders.

We have to break up for-profit corporations with no liability for the the executivrs, BODs and shareholders for the corporation's criminal actions.


#11

England expects that all enemies will die laughing.


#12

Never! The entire world now plays soccer and wears pin-stripe suits. We have done our duty and the world has been won over by our culture..