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An American Mussolini


#1

An American Mussolini

John Kiriakou

As you probably heard, Donald Trump canceled a rally in Chicago after scuffles broke out between Trump supporters and opponents around the arena where the candidate was supposed to speak.


#2

Good article. But what should scare the hell out of us is that soooo many Americans are acolytes of this ( American Mussolini ) buffoon! Even though they are raking in $$$$$, one wonders why the MSM has given this dangerous and most ignorant of demagogues 4 billion $ in free air time! Trump makes George Wallace look like a choir boy.

Trump already said that the person that attacked him on the stage had connections to ISIS, then retracted another lie, but my point is: if Trump becomes POTUS I am sure he will use that lie to marginalize his political enemies. Like another President that used that lie when he said: " YOU ARE EITHER WITH US ARE YOU ARE WITH TERRORISTS".

Wait for it! If Trump becomes POTUS You could very well hear that bogus refrain again: YOU ARE EITHER WITH ME ARE YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS!


#3

Blue collar white male workers (many of which don't read) recognize that good jobs are hard to come by and most are working for less $ and less job security.

Instead of really recognizing who screwed them (think corporations gunning for NAFTA), they see the Hispanic guest worker as the problem.

Those who identify with the military think Arabs really pulled off the 911 (inside job). Trump presents a narrative that turns the U.S. into the victim. He leaves out the MILLIONS killed all across the Middle East as if these hard truths don't factor into the net calculus or warrant so much as a footnote.

Simplistic "with us or against us" former Bush supporters who see the world in terms similar to those of a football game identify with this nonsensical narrative.

Plenty of men preferred the time when women were at home, obeyed them, and had no financial wherewithal to live on their own... no less choose lovers thanks to birth control.

So there's a lot of anger at independent (Feminist) women.

And then there's the latent disorder of racism. And by demeaning that Black Lives Matter and framing the individual who dared bring that item up (at a Trump rally) as the offender, Trump could play racism like a Conga drum.

People are angry and they have reason to be angry. But just as Hitler took Germany's humiliation at the loss of W. W. I (along with its economic straits) and projected that anger onto ONE specific scapegoat population, this very dangerous tactic is lethal to not just the target group... but also to the heart and soul of a nation.

Trump is about Trump. He is a shallow narcissist with the emotional I.Q. of a young adolescent.

Any challenge to his authority is taken as insubordination to the throne. And his nonsensically simplistic versions of modern historical events show him to be a very unwise candidate for any job that involves major government decision-making.

But there are lots of angry white men out there, and when Trump celebrates splitting heads... that's the atavistic tribal call that resonates with THEIR level of consciousness.


#4

This article is on target. This violence against protesters that is occurring at these rallies should never be accepted as the new normal. There is nothing normal about it. Americans of all types must speak up and say this is unacceptable. All election rallies must be free of violence. Also, Americans must speak out against those disrupting the rallies and trying to shut them down. That is also unacceptable. If the left keeps trying to shut down rallies Trump might next have goon squads. This could escalate into what occurred in Italy many decades ago. Violence against protesters at rallies is unacceptable and not allowing speakers to speak is also unacceptable. Election rallies must be conducted in a civil manner if the US is going to continue to have a functioning democracy.


#5

One small correction. Mussolini had his Black Shirts, Hitler's SA were the Brown Shirts.
* The US Fourth Reich seems to use Brown Shirts dressed in Blue to do most of their dirty work.
* The result is the same, as is the MO.
;-})


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#7

Hey Ando,

i've posted earlier versions of this a couple times, regarding the cite of Mussolini, and the meaning of "corporatism" being not at all what we think of today when we think of corporations:

It's important to be clear about what was meant in the early and mid-20th century by "corporatism."

Corporatism as a political term was not coined to refer to a merger of government with "big business" corporations.

Corporatism meant - and still means, when referring to fascism - the "incorporation" of all major social and economic bodies - including, but not only, business sectors - under the direction and control of the State.
The individual staffs of the fasces - a bundle of staffs around an axe - specifically symbolized these various social and economic formations, around the unifying State. (Simultaneously, the fasces for Mussolini symbolized and claimed heritage to the greatness of the Roman Empire.)

In the famous quote often attributed to Mussolini (but never sourced or verified) about fascism and corporatism - "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power" - people today can read this as meaning "corporations" as we know them. But that is not what is meant (even if that quote cannot be sourced).

Here's a clip from the Skeptical Libertarian site about this incorrect understanding of corporatism:


“Corporations” were not individual businesses. Under fascist corporatism, sectors of the economy were divided into corporate groups, whose activities and interactions were managed and coordinated by the government... The National Council of Corporations was the government body in charge of managing Italy’s economy, and membership included representatives from labor unions, employers, public sector workers, government ministries, and social groups... The bottom line is that corporate groups meant classes of people in the economy, which were allegedly represented through appointments to the Council. The system was not about welfare for private companies, but rather about totalitarian central planning of the whole economy through legislation and regulation. Corporatism meant formally “incorporating” divergent interests under the state...


And here are sourced and cited Mussolini quotes about fascism and corporatism, compiled at the other link i included at the top, from Public Eye in an article by Chip Berlet:


It is unlikely that Mussolini ever made this statement because it contradicts most of the other writing he did on the subject of corporatism and corporations. When Mussolini wrote about corporatism, he was not writing about modern commercial corporations. He was writing about a form of vertical syndicalist corporatism based on early guilds. The article on Wikipedia on Corporatism explains this rather well. Here are some typical Mussolini quotes from original documents:

"The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State--a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values--interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people." (p. 14)

"Fascism recognises the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade-unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonised in the unity of the State." (p.15)

"Yet if anyone cares to read over the now crumbling minutes giving an account of the meetings at which the Italian Fasci di Combattimento were founded, he will find not a doctrine but a series of pointers…" (p. 23)

"It may be objected that this program implies a return to the guilds (corporazioni). No matter!... I therefore hope this assembly will accept the economic claims advanced by national syndicalism." (p. 24)

"Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere." (p. 32)

"The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State." (p. 41)

Benito Mussolini, 1935, The Doctrine of Fascism, Firenze: Vallecchi Editore


All this helps understand why Juan Peron in Argentina led a "corporatist" or fascist regime, even though Peronism gave more influence and support to the working class - the "descamisados" or shirtless ones - under his corporatist regime.


#8

Correct-but, whatever the color of their shirts, they are all hewn from the same cloth.


#9

I remember George Wallace quite well. Wallace was a serious racist, and proud of it. Trump may have a much larger following, and thus be more frightening, but Wallace was truly hard core ...


#10

The only difference is that running trains on time is probably not one of Trump's priorities like it was for Mussolini and the other European fascists.


#13

So, in general, he's sorta-kinda like most American's it's all about me attitude, so sounds like he's perfect for the job. It's a placeholder job. So who cares?

It really doesn't matter. T will take his marching orders just like all his predecessors have, albeit a new list of names & hacks will show up at the feeding troughs. He at least shows signs he might be brave enough (unlike Obomber) to use the bully pulpit to trim the pentagon's budget, and maybe pull back on the murder rampage we've been on courtesy of GWB, BHO, & HRC...oh, and Madeleine--who'll for sure be reinstated under any Clinton regime.


#15

It is possible that Trump would be the most secretive of all modern presidents because of his strongman - he will 'take care of it' attitude. He'll tell us when we need to know. He's in charge, so don't worry. He has people working on it, so relax.

That is Trump. Autocrat in chief! He knows what to do, so we don't have to.

Mussolini had black shirts and Hitler had brown ones (at first) and Trump will have tailored shirts and then he'll have our shirts!

I keep wondering what will be happening when I'm not around any more? What a mess we leave behind us for following generations.

'Climate Change Under Fascism'... Anybody need a book title?


#16

Mussolini and friends. Looks like there's enough room for one more.


#17

Well said.


#18

Thanks. I am sure you know more about Wallace than I do, but from my perspective, Trump has a chance to become POTUS and from what I can tell, Wallace had no chance. By the way, I have never heard much about who shot him.


#19

Arthur Bemer, or somebody like that, another "lone gunman" who manged to help Nixon, one of many. Funny about that.

Wallace mellowed over his years as a paraplegic, and tried to get a reconciliation with the Black community in Alabama as he got older ...


#20

Thanks for the info. Don't you mean on loan gunman?


#21

This is an excellent explanation. Very correct. But there is a legal term "A distinction without a difference". In the United States the corporations have themselves incorporated many of the other social institutions usually thought of as autonomous. Think of the US Medicare and Medicaid systems, or the Media and News infrastructure. The American Corporation System is 'an incorporation' of diverse institutions when you think of it this way. Think of Mussolini when you think of Donald Trump. Think of Mussolini's wife when you think of Hillary Clinton. Leo of Cottage Grove OR


#22

I thought of a bumper sticker I'd be willing to put on my car: "The Faces of Fascism" on one line. Underneath, pictures of Mussolini, Hitler, Trump, and in slightly larger form, Cruz.


#23

whom.