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As ICE Raids Begin, Advocates Remind Immigrants That 'You Have Rights'

Originally published at http://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/07/14/ice-raids-begin-advocates-remind-immigrants-you-have-rights

First they came for the immigrants…
Then they came for the _______…


State terrorism.


One day, they’ll come for you because you’re a registered Democratic voter, or perhaps because you checked out a certain web page, or you don’t wear your American Flag pin to work.

But right now they’re starting with the weakest and most vulnerable, you know, the “others” who look different, therefore they are the ones to blame for all the troubles.


Conservatives could do a lot to reduce immigration by ending the fucking Drug War.

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For those of you who have been asking, “I wonder what it was like, living in Nazi Germany?” or, “What was it like, growing up in Nazi Germany?”
*I’ve been urging you all to do a little studying, and reading of the journals left by those who were actually in Nazi Germany, and in countries affected by the Nazis and the fascists.
*I’ll make the answer much easier, now. "Look out the window."


That Andrew Jackson Portrait in the WH Oval Office is very telling. The current occupier, this moral monster Trump is indicating he is fantasizing himself as the new Andrew Jackson and our southern border neighbors as the new “Indians” unto whom to unleash his raiders, as in the old days settler raiders waged total war all across Indigenous land. The new raiders are Border Patrol, ICE.

From D.H.Lawrence:

"The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted."

US Americans are fond of speaking about “freedom” so here is another quote from Lawrence:

Men are free when they are obeying some deep, inward voice of religious belief. Obeying from within. Men are free when they belong to a living, organic, believing community, active in fulfilling some unfulfilled, perhaps unrealized purpose. Not when they are escaping to some wild west. The most unfree souls go west, and shout of freedom.”

This mentality has persisted and the new fronteirs are now the rest of the globe and outer space.


Note that the photo that accompanies this story, and many others of the same vein on other sites, shows the faces of those being illegally arrested, but does not show the faces of the gestapo. Media is complicit in allowing the gestapo agents to hide in the shadows.


agree. Problem is that if they published the faces of the gestapo they would be shut down, or worse for those involved. So what what to they do?

Not really. The ones that are targeted have a deportation order signed by a judge. Those people entered the country illegally, they were apprehended, the released pending a hearing. They might or might not have showed up for that hearing. Either way a deportation order was issues at the hearing and they decided to ignore it.

So, no, they are not being illegally arrested.

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Thanks for the heads up. Most of my friends are immigrants. We are all hunkering down in our basements, NOT…

I think “they” are rounding up illegal immigrants with deportation orders.

Hi lamonte7

This answered a few questions for me. https://www.c-span.org/video/?455599-1/cpb-chief-warns-border-facilities-equipped-handle-families-children

Well that was anti-climactic. ICE never showed up, apparently.

Hey lamonte7, I’m curious. Are you trying for a cabinet position, or just to become a member of trump’s schutzstaffel? (Look it up.) Unfortunately, you’d probably fit right in.

Various Geneva protocols have been ratified by Congress and have been signed by a United States President. Under the U.S. Constitution that makes them the law of the land until Congress amends the law.

Every refugee fleeing from death threats has a legal right to present himself or herself to United States authorities and ask for political asylum. The U.S. does not have the legal right to send them back to a dangerous place where the drug gangs can kill them. Nor does the U.S. have the legal right to torture these refugees. Putting the refugees in cold “ICE Boxes” to freeze them is prohibited both under the U.S. Constitution and under the Geneva protocols. Ripping tiny kids from their parents and torturing them is psychopathic.

Our government is committing a massive and illegal abrogation of the law of the land and of justice.

When we lock up people and refuse to let lawyers visit these people unless they first know the prisoners’ names, that’s an abrogation of justice. Our government is using a catch-22 to keep these prisoners incommunicado.

NPR reported a “Sophie’s Choice” story today. Sophie is a three year old girl with a big scar on her chest from a heart operation. An ICE agent said that Sophie could only have one parent, her father or her mother. Sophie, not really grasping the magnitude of the decision placed on her, chose her Mommy. So then when they were about to take Daddy away, Sophie and her brother and sister freaked out. You do not lay this terrible pressure on a little kid with a bad heart!

Our treatment of the refugees also violates Deuteronomy. We shall treat strangers with justice.

Civilians are obligated under the Geneva protocols to stick up for the refugees.

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Never forget Anne Franks.

We have become notorious around the world for not ratifying treaties, even those we have introduced, if they interfere with corporate profit or overt control of We the People, not only of this country, but of the world. Until the day comes when we can remove the corporate owned and controlled government of all three branches, and replace them with actual Representatives of We the People, we will just have to put up with watching the annual, and quad-annual Kabuki that passes for government in a Nazi or fascist state. Hours of scripted, empty talk and meaningless votes, followed by more suppression and poverty of those who fall short of the multimillionaire goal.
We the People definitely need to initiate a complete and thorough housecleaning of the cesspool known as the Federal Government. Then, we must again build a government of the People, by the People and for the People, with real checks and balances to preclude yet another move by the corporate entities to own and control us all.
*Remember, we are no longer a government ruled by law and treaties with other governments. We are in an extended vision of “Let’s make a Deal!” Our fuehrer has made it plain that “Deals are made to be broken,” and they are, endlessly. As I pointed out the other day, the whole world knows that trump’s “deals” are not worth the toilet paper they are smeared upon. Yet the “deals” continue, with some of the principals just figuring how they can be twisted to their advantage. That’s what “deals” are all about, aren’t they?
The entire world should refuse to do “deals” with what used to be the United States, but insist upon negotiated treaties with built in safeguards, or nothing.

Trump plays percussion on his man-boobs, film at 11…

This is one area where trump is happy to follow the law. Not so much elsewhere.

These folks do have rights. The right to remain silent, to an attorney, a phone call, and to whistle past the graveyard of the immigration dept.

Lamonte7 wants to be in the SS because he is pointing out an obvious fact?!? Give me a break. He was pointing out the delineation between an immigrant with illegal and legal status.

The conflagration of these different types of immigrants is often done purposely. This is dishonest and dangerous as many legal immigrants may feel that their security is dubious.

This comment thread is full of examples of Godwin’s Law.