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As Paris Summit Ends in Deal, Climate Campaigners say the Work is Just Beginning


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As Paris Summit Ends in Deal, Climate Campaigners say the Work is Just Beginning

Andrea Germanos, staff writer

This story will be updated.

The global talks known as COP21 ended Saturday with nearly 200 countries agreeing to a carbon emissions-slashing deal (pdf). And climate campaigners are saying that the agreement doesn't go far enough, and that the real work is just beginning.


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“It’s a fraud really, a fake,” he says, rubbing his head. “It’s just bullshit for them to say: ‘We’ll have a 2C warming target and then try to do a little better every five years.’ It’s just worthless words. There is no action, just promises. As long as fossil fuels appear to be the cheapest fuels out there, they will be continued to be burned.” - James Hansen

The US government is completely bought off by the fossil-fuel corpse. We are going to have to act as individuals (organized, of course) to effect real change in this country. Stop eating meat, put solar panels on your house, whatever it takes... especially if you have grandchildren.


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Unfortunatelly James Hansen believes that nuclear energy is one of the ways out of this mess. My opinion of him has really gone down.


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Yes, you are right. Just a few weeks ago he said, "Nuclear power, particularly next-generation nuclear power with a closed fuel cycle (where spent fuel is reprocessed), is uniquely scalable, and environmentally advantageous." I'm not buying that either. Solutions need to be local, not on a grand scale. But, he is dead on about this bullshit deal with the devil they have come up with in Paris.


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Nick Dearden, director of campaign group Global Justice Now, said: "It's outrageous that the deal that's on the table is being spun as a success when it undermines the rights of the world's most vulnerable communities and has almost nothing binding to ensure a safe and liveable climate for future generations."
"Some aspects of the agreement will be legally binding, such as submitting an emissions reduction target and the regular review of that goal.
However, the targets set by nations will not be binding under the deal struck in Paris."


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As expected, the conference would fail to address the climate change problem but still it would be called a success. The 1.5C target is really a joke in the context of this inadequate action to confront the problem. The link below shows what it would take to limit warming to 1.5C and it would seem to require something like a WWII mobilization. Of course, the targets do not include additional increases in warming from likely positive feedbacks such as melting permafrost. I guess we are just supposed to make a wish that tipping points for these feedbacks are not passed. Now you know what to wish for when you blow out the candles on your birthday cake. The outcome of this conference is that it still appears extremely like that the temperature will eventually pass 4C. We are a long way from putting concern about that catastrophic possibility behind us.

http://www.iiasa.ac.at/web/home/about/news/150521-15-scenarios.html


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I was afraid the Climate Conference would end this way. We've already baked ourselves into a minimum of 3C temperature rise. And I totally agree with Endgame. We CANNOT wait five years, let alone three years to take action. We need to take action now! But stopping the heat engine that is the Industrial Economy will not happen anytime soon. We've already gone off the proverbial cliff. We're just waiting to hit the bottom. :frowning:


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Amazon Watch Press Release notes:
Climate Agreement Reached, but Fails to Recognize Indigenous Rights and Climate Justice


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Does anyone know what the current warming number is?
Or what the delegates were useing?
All I can find is what I think is the 2010 number .85 c which is 1.5 f
It appears they stopped announcing it?
Surely it's over 1c. now 2010-2015 were all hot hot hot.

It funnny when you goggle it the top hits are half denier sites, apparently google in on the fence about it.


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So colonialism has been saved, but not the climate.


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"I wanted to report back to you after an intense week in Paris, where the global community was gathered for the COP21 UN Climate Summit. Firstly, the recent tragic attacks in Paris, California and elsewhere weighed heavily on the week’s proceedings, so that the struggle against climate crisis was embedded in a landscape of terrorism and violence.

As global crises of climate, security, the economy, and democracy converge, we must redouble our efforts for transformational solutions to build a world of peace, justice, and human rights. I spoke about some of these solutions at a People’s Climate Summit conference on climate and militarism, which you can read more about here.

As the summit progressed and its final outcome took shape, it became clear that COP21 has failed to take the action necessary to prevent global climate catastrophe.

The voluntary, unenforceable pledges being produced by COP21 are entirely insufficient to prevent climate crisis. Scientific analysis shows that these pledges will lead us to 3 degrees centigrade global temperature rise - and that will be catastrophic.

Some of the pledges being touted as historic agreements could actually result in increases in emission of greenhouse gasses. Plans are adopting deceptive measures of success, such as reductions in the amount of carbon emitted per unit of GDP. Countries are claiming to be making progress when they are not reducing their actual pollution by a single ounce. Mother Nature doesn’t respond to such games. It is the real quantity of pollution that determines whether we will destroy the climate or save it.

Despite the seriousness of the threat, some of the major polluters remain committed to protecting the fossil fuel industry rather than taking serious action. I include in that group the United States, where President Obama’s promotion of the hydrofracking industry is leading to a spreading cancer of polluted groundwater and fracked gas pipelines. These pipelines, along with expansion of offshore oil drilling, have to be stopped if we are to make our required contribution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

The United States and other industrial nations are failing to adequately fund transition and adaptation efforts in developing countries. It is the US and major industrialized countries that are primarily responsible for climate change. We have both a moral and legal responsibility to compensate other countries for the damages we have inflicted, and to enable them to find sustainable paths to development that will raise their standards of living.

One area of progress in Paris was growing recognition of the need to limit the global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees centigrade, rather than 2.0 degrees. It is now clear that many countries will experience catastrophic damage from the higher target. Unfortunately, the current agreements won't even keep global warming below 3 degrees. However, the new international target of 1.5 degrees does provide a tool to push our local, state and national governments to accelerate the transition to 100% clean renewable energy as quickly as possible.

I had the honor of speaking to attendees of the Belong Forum in a program that included China’s deputy chief climate negotiator and other leading climate advocates. China has recently reoriented its economic planning to make climate protection a primary goal of its development plans. Also, as a result of its recent election, Canada has a government that is promising more vigorous support for climate protection.

The United States also needs to move forward.

The United States bears primary responsibility for killing hope for a binding international treaty to avert climate catastrophe. I will return to the United States determined to work to break the grip of the fossil fuel industry on Congress and the White House.

Our country must begin to show the leadership the world needs at this critical moment in human history.

It's time for the people of all nations - whose future is being sacrificed by the failure of COP21 - to demand that their leaders live up to their responsibilities for protecting us from climate change.

We must insist that the polluting engines of planetary destruction be replaced by the clean, sustainable, just economy that we truly deserve.

We must take our future into our own hands, and give our children a livable world.

It’s in our hands!

Jill Stein"


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Farmer,

We are officially at 1C (1.8F) above baseline (pre industrial times.. 1880;s). Many climate scientists believe we are now entering Abrupt Climate Change. So, it may be possible that we hit the 2C mark before 2025 or 2030. Humans don't realize that we won't be able to grow anything in a world that is 3C warmer than today. Plants and animals just can't naturally adapt that fast. We are all on a path to collapsing ecosystems, widespread starvation, and civil unrest.


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If Bernie were president then America would have shown real leadership instead of merely following along half heartedly.

Bernie would have fought for more action on climate change and we all know it. Bernie needs people to get out the vote. We are his resource base. The other candidates have the oligarchy money. That means we need to get people to vote for our candidate like they got votes in the old days before pac money million dollar election races. Get out the vote for Bernie!!!

Climate change is the reason why. We need someone like Bernie to lead. This is like a race where all the racers are avoiding having to win.

We need a climate change winner. Get out and get the votes for Bernie. He needs us, activists, organizers, people of goodwill, progressives and lefties to get him the necessary votes... to save our asses... and the future of the planet.


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Thanks, i believe you, but do you have a link, For the warming number?
You make great points but are a bit polemic, some humans realize we will be able to grow vastly less food, however some food will still be produced, some fruits papaya family and other tropicals should be o.k.. But who knows with all the cascading effects.... Its a completely interdependent system. You hit it on the head with ecosystem collapse which will likely happen even if we were to stop all emissions tommorow. Your for sure correct about many not being able to adapt, and i appreciate that you didnt try to stick in the word evolve, which takes even longer to happen than adaptation.
My understanding is that in 5-6 degree realm thats where it will become nearly a barren planet.

The UN has explicitly said in order to feed people we need to create many new ecofarms as possible and elimate animal products from our diet, if their was only a massive initiative to bring this about, but instead insentives galor to put people in condo's and apt. in city.


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As CORP 21 finishes (us all) up, we need to take actions into our own hands.
We Must Change to a Mindset of Moving to A Global Cooling mindset. Global Warming shifting to Global Cooling.
What can we do and must we do to move the balance to a global cooling mindset?
How can we cool the planet with proven Earth Technologies.... We must Start a Massive Global Reforestation effort, must start using the Soil to bank and to store the carbon.
We must start thinking how to pull carbon out of the atmosphere and store it in the soil.
If they are forecasting a 1.5-2 C increase---you can bet that is way too conservative, that they know it will go to 4 or 5 C increase (Exxon knew this back in the 70s).
We need to offset these increases, not with their empty promises and hopes, but with firm action. They are cooking the books.
It is time for the individual to take action: Cut your energy consumption, cool the planet...and yes if you live on the coast, move in-land as soon as you can.
If we think that we have a bad refugee (not migrant) problem in the number of thousands now, just wait- we will have a refugee global problem in the range of millions or more.


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Unfortunately Hansen is probably as right about the nuclear energy issue as he was about global warming back in the eighties whether we like it or not.


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Do you have A link to this message from Jill Stein?


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Yeah, well, as for individual action... that's part of the path... but, there are SSSOOOO many people that haven't got a clue...


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If you want 1.5 degrees, demand succeed-or-else new product development and successful marketing in the following fields:

Building heat at 6:00 a.m. when most buildings warm up to 68 degrees F.

Nighttime solar thermal based electricity to cover our current gap.

A new automated above-grade transit system to replace traffic jams, about a factor of 10 less expensive (not counting amenities inside the cars).

Concentrated daylighting for buildings.

Polar overheating protection.

Species extinction prevention.

If Congress says, "We'll run it trust us", don't trust them. We know who pays Congress their campaign contributions.


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NOAA says 0.85C since 1880. However, that number was given in Februrary 2014. Because of the recent record warming it should be a little more than that.

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/Climate_gov_GlobalWarming_FAQ_15Aug13.pdf