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At Least 84 Dead as France Reels from Attack in Nice


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At Least 84 Dead as France Reels from Attack in Nice

Nadia Prupis, staff writer

Scores of people were killed in Nice, France late Thursday night when a truck rammed into a crowd that had gathered for Bastille Day, in what officials say was a deliberate attack.

At least 84 have been killed, another 50 seriously injured, and many others hurt.

The Guardian is providing live updates here.


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"You reap what you sow". So, simple a saying, so simple a truth..
Yet, the powers that be have convinced the majority that these acts are somehow without provocation, that they are the acts of crazy people, acting without just cause, monsters, "terrorists".


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Yet more European blowback from the Clinton Doctrine that was applied during Clinton's tenure at the US State Department.


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More fucking neocon blowback bullshit. Thanks Shrub!


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As far as I am concerned this insanity of mass murder started with the Bush/Cheney illegal attack of Iraq and Afghanistan. The mass murder the US began there which has been sustained and broadened by Obama.

You can't keep indiscriminately murdering people with drones and other weapons without there being a reaction. There is no excuse for plowing a truck into masses of innocent civilians. It was an act of an insane, truly evil and cowardly son of a bitch. But all of us in this country and the UK and other countries have to take responsibility for the continuing carnage that our countries are bringing down on the people of the Middle East who are mostly Muslim.

It's not hard to understand how many Muslims see this endless war in the Middle East as an attack on their religion. We, the US, have got to get out of the Middle East and we have got to stop routinely killing people around the world wherever and whenever we feel like it.


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Really ? Would you mind telling what France did to deserve this?


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I just watched the sci-fi movie Terminus on Netflix.
The main plot was sci-fi, but the back story was that we were invading Iran. Russia was not too happy with us. I will not give anything away, but all throughout, all I could think of was this is exactly how Hillary Clinton would manage our foreign policy.
Foreign soil wars are so good for business.
And our leaders never think (or at least acknowledge) that these wars have serious repercussions at home.


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This isn't the Clinton's, they are have just been carrying out along standing tradition among the powerful, empire building.
They are continuing the long standing tradition of the “strong do as they can, and the weak suffer what they must”.


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Here is another example of all the "love and peace" organized religion is bringing to the world. Truly, organized religion is the curse of mankind. And don't forget for a moment that a lot of our American troops see themselves as "Christian soldiers" going to the Middle East to destroy the Muslims. Modern day Crusaders.


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Once again the perpetrator is simply killed instead of captured which illustrates precisely the violent attitudes of the powers that be with their drone assassinations, bombings etc. It is impossible to actually apprehend the perpetrators of these violent attacks for investigation and trial?
I find that hard to believe that in the 21st Century we cannot tranquilize or otherwise subdue these sorts of attackers. By just killing them, besides the wanton violence involved it also cuts off a major source of investigation- namely the killer themselves, who they knew, their motives etc.
Dead men (unfortunately in 90% of cases it is MEN!) tell no tales...
In many cases it becomes a murder/suicide with the killer finally killing themselves. But
I doubt that was the case this time and once again it appears no effort was made to simply subdue
and capture the perpetrator. Nope. Just blow then away
Emblematic of the Deep State's violence


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Perhaps from the historical Arab point of view: Sykes-Picot agreement and the post-1919 carve up of Arabia; also Algeria and Morocco.

But, from my point of view; the modern victims of this incident, and of the current mess in the Middle East, did not deserve any of it.


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Empire has gone into hyper-parasitic mode. Never are the psychic concentration camps of extractive predatory capitalism ever critiqued in cases like this.

The IMF/ ECB/WB have been protecting their cronies who inserted hyper-parasitic corporate practices into nations like Greece, Portugal, Spain - the "civilized" versions of "regime change" for resources in the middle east. Shared by both is utter and complete dehumanization rendering human life dissociated from the environment and tabulated as a bizzarely inhuman equation on spreadsheets.

Why does this system adopt these practices? Because it is thoroughly dysfunctional and incompetent while hyper-pumping exquisitely clever propaganda that suspends human life in viscous mediums of mass media.

It has been said that the collectivity called human life in society is like a fish never questioning the water in which it swims. Very interesting point in this aphorism: Each time it is repeated it is also repeating a very specific lacuna: Human beings, according to the system, are denied the single most defining aspect of being human: the capacity to think and function by the very same defining aspect of being human: thinking and functioning as societies.

The system of economic domination of a single economic THEORY undergirding its system is utterly dependent on institutionalized denial of access to information in constant re-creation of its solipsistic premise, which has become nakedly visible to societies on which it preys in its denials, violence, secrecy and collapse of integrity.

The sad reality is, I would submit, that all of us must hold firmly to the very qualities of it means to be a human being: to love, to include, to learn, to support each other and not "buy into" the premises of a demonstrably failed system.

To make 'journey of a thousand miles', we must be where our feet, hands, hearts and minds are and through so doing learn the strengths that been usurped over centuries. We must teach the system through direct experience from the roots upward. We have the capacity and are fully capable of showing the coherence of humility in clarity, strength in drawing on our differences as breadth of capacity and do so for our children, the children of our neighbors as well as those designated by the predatory aspects of institutions as "enemies".


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From the guardian:

The man responsible for Thursday evening’s murderous attack in Nice appears to have been a violent petty criminal, unknown to the French security services, who was born in Tunisia but living and working in the coastal city.

The man – who was shot dead by police after killing 84 people and injuring scores more – has been named locally as Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel.

According to widespread French media reports, the 31-year-old was a delivery driver from the town of M’saken, near the city of Sousse where dozens of foreign tourists were shot dead on a beach last year. He had reportedly last visited the town four years ago.

The married father of three was reported to have had a long criminal record and little apparent interest in religion. Echoing the remarks of French officials, security sources in Tunisia said he was not known by the Tunisian authorities to hold radical or Islamist views.

So no organised religion there. Just petty criminal mad man. But that won't stop everyone from spinning it otherwise


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What's with all the attacks everywhere? A prelude by the Jackels to World War?

Seems off. 269 intelligence agencies and they can't prevent a single one of these? Let's just shut them down and mail the taxpayers a hefty refund.


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In her significant work, "The Shock Doctrine," Naomi Klein explains that predatory capitalists either capitalize on traumatic events or create them. Either way their business model is the financial equivalent of the role played by nature's vultures.

It is not possible to know how many terrorist attacks in U.S., Brussels, France, and elsewhere are "organic" and which ones have been deliberately triggered. Of course, when populations rise, and the climate thermostat rises along with them, and the vast majority feel their financial security threatened... the recipe is ripe for spontaneous eruptions of aggression.

To the military maniacs who view the entire world as a war-zone, these violent events are welcomed because they provide the rationale for this, a protocol being put into operation in many formerly "free" nations:

"French President François Hollande declared three national days of mourning and extended the country's state of emergency—still in place since November's attack on the headquarters of satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo—by another three months. He also said France was "tightening up its borders" and that military officials would deploy another 10,000 army reservists to patrol the streets of France, while "activities will be strengthened" in Iraq and Syria.

"The controversial state of emergency allows police to conduct unwarranted house raids and empowers officials to place individuals under house arrest."

Under the guise of protection, elites find ways to place societies under virtual lock-down.

And how convenient that these events come right before the TPP and TIPP become enforced--as law--AGAINST the People, the creatures of Earth, and the ecosystems upon which all life rests.


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I've made this analogy before: That corporations like Monsanto blend naturally occurring organic foods with dangerous chemical pesticides (and various genetic deformities). The result is that the real thing can no longer be separated from the counterfeit.

The above serves as metaphor for ALL major news events. Some elements may indeed be natural (or naturally occurring), yet there's a lot of Hollywood Style "special effects" going on, too.

Remember: the mass media is the military's megaphone these days and since the CIA got actively involved in a pro-torture mainstream movie like "Zero Dark 30," why would anyone think they're not equally involved in other "Made for T.V. newly-minted Historical Events"?

I mean, if these diabolical misfits can get away with orchestrating a 911 without enough public scrutiny, or the nonsense that Bin Laden (who required Dialysis) was living in a remote cave and killed--without a body being produced and with some of the Navy Seals on that "mission" also dead due to accidents...

This stuff is a merger of Hollywood and reality. (Remember that line from the unquoted source about the neocons CREATING reality that historians would one day study.)

My point is that I no longer believe these events. Some may well be true, but there's been so much taint to what passes for news, and too many predictable occurrences with similar scripts. Then, too, there is the timing.

The worst of elites want world war and they have created contracts that literally turn them into the owners of everything on this planet... where citizens' permission is no longer required for ANYTHING that they do. The TPP and TIPP effectively write pollution, plunder, and predation INTO the legal mix.

They will use "laws" like the TPP and "anti-terrorism" laws to essentially imprison, threaten, and subdue the masses killing AS NEEDED to maintain the "necessary threat level." That seems to be the protocol as per the Black Community. Shooting after shooting, cop after cop acquitted. How can this NOT say to the Black Community: "You are expendable and no court, justice, or jury will be permitted to counter the notion."

What's being done to Muslims (wars), and Black citizens (domestic police use of Force Overkill), and Hispanics (tossed back over the border)... as if only GAYS have rights! What a strange and twisted paradigm...

These events are USED to justify the increasing presence of soldiers on our streets, laws that curtail citizen protest, soon--the right to assembly, and as for free speech: all the better for Big Brother to listen in on.

Laws have been violated in ways that allot to criminals the rights being stolen from citizens. This problem and its applicable protocols are global.

(I agree with your comment and offer this as reinforcement.)


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Nobody deserves this kind of treatment. However, if you are asking what France did in the past to bring the focus of violent groups upon them, that is a different question...and France has done plenty. Almost every hot spot of unrest and civil turmoil in the world today can be traced to former colonies of France. Because of the extreme racist attitude of 18th, 19th and 20th century French society, these countries were stripped of their resources while the populations were kept in near slavery and starvation. All government function was reserved for French officials at the exclusion of the local people as the French saw themselves so wonderfully superior on every level. When the colonial empire they had assembled began to crumble, huge power vacuums were left in its wake. With no local governing experience, these former colonies descended into chaos and factionalism that has continued to plague them ever since. Syria, Libya, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Algeria...the list is long. So, you may ask, what does the ancient past have to do with the present? Well, people have long memories. The Serbs are still extremely pissed about a battle they lost to the Turks in the 1300's. Then there is the Arab tradition similar to machismo within Hispanic culture. An Arab man must be steadfastly dedicated to his family and his religion. But most of all, an Arab man must get revenge...and not just revenge for himself but also for any family member who has been wronged in some way several generations back. A son inherits his father's revenge obligations and so on. If one's great-great-great grandfather failed to get revenge then one is still obligated to realize retribution. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. The French poked the hornet's nest and it is coming back to bite them in the ass. We Americans should take note and clean up our act before it is too late.


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I did not say they deserved it, no body deserves it, I stated a simple truth. "You reap what you sow."
The western powers have been sowing for a long time and when the survivors of victims fight back, they are labeled terrorists.
No sane person would try to defend the killing of innocents, but you cannot simply ignore without continuing the violence, cause and effect.

" If you want to stop terrorism, stop participating in it"- Noam Chomsky

Western powers have terrorized the ME for most of the 20th century and continued without missing a breath into the 21st.


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Well in fact neither of us know what his motives were. His being a "petty" criminal certainly doesn't explain why he would murder 84 people. Do you really think this horrible act is completely divorced from the Muslim-Christian war that is being waged around the world? Do you think that there is no connection between this act and to the ongoing violence between Western countries and Muslim Countries? Do you think this guy just woke up one day and said something like, "What the hell I'm a petty criminal and I think I'll go out and murder a bunch of people"?