I will absolutely vote for him against Hitlery, but I need to hear something about his foreign policy before I would vote for him in the GE. Will he be just another neocon like Hitlery and Jeb? I will only vote for a vocal anti-war President in the GE.
Bernie is the best, he will get my vote. Of course, this IS the Common Dreams comments universe and the ideological purists hate Bernie Sanders and call him a sell out, a fake, a phony and a fraud. I guess they must think the same of FDR who certainly had his failings and blunders. I think that FDR did more good than harm and he certainly was great for the working class. So go ahead, stomp your feet like petulant brats and bash Bernie.
Here we go again. Dare to criticize Bernie Sanders and this is what you are going to get.
He will never be able to match the others in campaign contributions. Therefore, I think Sanders should avoid paying any fees for TV ads and spend his limited dollars going to where the people are, places of work, welfare offices, schools, etc to get his message to the people. No$ to big TV networks.
Apparently Robby Mook, one of the new young campaign mavens, is in charge of Hillary’s efforts. So far it appears Mr. Mook is taking a page out of James A. Garfield’s “front porch” strategy. Keep a low profile, speak only when necessary, avoid hard issues, and wait for the nomination to fall in her lap. Bernie is not hiding, his problem is getting on the public airwaves. Bernie is out to win not to move Hillary to the left. Having Bernie along side Hillary in a debate can only make Ms. Hillary uncomfortable. Bernie is very articulate and is not about to be bamboozled by Ms. Clinton. I wonder if the Clinton campaign, behind the scenes, is trying to lure others into the race, lest Bernie make HIllary look, through stark contrast, the fawning corporatist she is. Go Bernie.
I will also vote for Bernie if he’s on the ballot, but you’re wrong, Joe, to call out the CD commenters who criticize him. They’ll probably vote for him too. But if Bernie’s a “badass left-winger,” then I’m Mikhail Bakunin.
Good ole Bernie. PEPx2. That is: Progressive Except for Palestine, and Populist Except for the Pentagon. What “Badass” hypocrisy, pretending to address climate change without calling for an all-out ban on war and weaponry, and pretending to address inequality while defending the Zionist, racist regime in Israel.
Sorry Joe (from his previous post above) but I don’t think being anti-war and pro-human rights makes me an idealogical purist. I think it makes me a thinking feeling human being. Bernie can have views that diverge from mine, as can any candidate. But I refuse to endorse mass murder and ethnic cleansing, both of which Sanders supports through his votes and views on defense spending and Israel. If those kind of compromises are okay with you, then it’s time to examine your moral compass.
Sorry Joe, but I don’t think being anti-war and pro-human rights makes me an idealogical purist. I think it makes me a thinking feeling human being. Bernie can have views that diverge from mine, as can any candidate. But I refuse to endorse mass murder and ethnic cleansing, both of which Sanders supports through his votes and views on defense spending and Israel. If those kind of compromises are okay with you, then it’s time to examine your moral compass.
“Consider the darlings du jour of the American Left, Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. They very seldom speak out critically about US foreign policy or even the military budget. The anti-war/anti-imperialist segment of the American left need to put proper pressure on the two senators.”
Bernie has a ways to go to get my vote. Apparently he is in favor of slaughtering 2400 Palestinians. “By your silence we shall know ye.”
The destruction of Palestine is a crime against humanity, and if one wants to pick nits, bombing Palestine is against U.N. rulings.
Any aspiring reformer will NOT make any headway toward any real reform by directly addressing things like war, occupations, racism and other SYMPTOMS of corporate control of government. The only meaningful place to start reform is at the heart of all of the problems facing the 99%…global corporations’, including Wall Street’s ownership of governments.
In politics as anywhere else you need to pick the battles that matter most lest you win a battle and lose the war. Sanders’ and Warren’s strategy to focus on the root of the problems is not only the best we can hope for, it is the best by any metric.
OK, let’s talk about FDR.
In 1934 he refused to endorse Upton Sinclair, the Democratic candidate for governor in California. His program was to tax the rich and use the money to start new co-operatives. He lost to the Republican.
Worse yet, he refused to support the left wing Spanish republic against Franco. In 1938 he agreed to withdraw the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, knowing well that Hitler and Mussolini would maintain their forces. It might be said that the loss of Spain encouraged Hitler to start World War II. (Our history books mostly talk about Czechoslovakia.)
How that influences your vote is up to you. I’m a Green.
I would vote for Bernie cause he seems like an honest politician. I thought the same about Obama. So much for what I think.
We already have our 3rd (4th, 5th 6th etc) parties. They won’t compete with 2 Party money and media UNTIL we have a successful on the ground movement.
Our example is the Indignados in Spain. They held squares & parks all over the country (our model for Occupy) and THEN formed the Podemos party which is now contesting for national power.
Also in Greece there was a huge co-op and mutual aid movement before Syriza was invented.
There is too much talk about parties and politicians, and not nearly enough about how to build movements, unions and community organizations.
I was hoping for an Independent run by Sen. Sanders and someone from the House’s Progressive Caucus wing with some cred in the Hispanic community. My choice would of been Raul Grijalva from the Tuscon area. This 2016 election poses a real opportunity for another party. And, what better way to build it than with the fastest growing, most middle class oriented segment of our country. These are loyal, aspirational voters and the Bernie/Raul wisdom and platform would of appealed to them. More importantly, it would appeal to their children. Free university education, higher minimum wages, better healthcare for families; what a ticket. Plus, a non-interventionist foreign policy would be a clear path to capture some of this voting block and keep it. That would cause both legacy parties to fundamentally redirect, but especially Hillary and the Dems. Oh well, if it’s Hillary v Jeb , time to catch up on my reading.
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Calling Sanders a left winger instead of an intelligent man and a good candidate makes people not trust him. When the campaign heats up you can expect that the corporate media will exclude him from debates and coverage and they will pretend that he just doesn’t exist. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if citizens rose above the media propaganda and voted for this good candidate. Most of the country dislikes and doesn’t trust Hillary Clinton. I fear that many of them will vote for her when it comes down to the wire. The Republicans will again put up candidates who scares the hell out of people and they will vote for the lesser of two evils just like they did in the last two elections. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if people simply refused to let themselves be manipulated and started to make decisions that served their own interests.
If the MSM tried to exclude Sen. Sanders they’d play into the right’s hands. It would show Hillary is being " added and abetted " by the disgusting liberal media. Creating more mistrust in her and strengthening that meme. Not going to happen in the 2016 elections. Bernie should of enlisted a grass roots independent campaign to really do the " contrast and compare " policies debate some justice. He didn’t and now the so-called left will sit back and not engage, sniping all the while about Bernie being a sellout and a false flag operation within the DLC. Compare that to the coalition gov’t being formed in Spain by the social democrats and, eventually, splinter groups from the socialist block… It just goes to show that an alternative to The Establishment, no matter what they attempt, will be pilloried by purists who’d rather critique American politics than work for real change. Rome, as they say, wasn’t built in a day, but the Neroites, burned it down in one. Poor Bernie, poorer us.
Hmm - best metric … does that include backing the MIC and Israeli depredations? Another version of LOTE, it seems to me …
So will you vote Green?