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Biden's $1.9 Trillion Relief Plan: $400 Unemployment Boost, $1,400 Checks, and Billions in Additional Aid

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#20

I’ll have to watch the speech tomorrow. Maybe I misunderstood.

Warnock campaigned on people getting a 2000 check if both Ds won. It was as plain a promise as I can recall seeing from a politician. Of course he shouldn’t have made that promise but I assumed since he had, he had discussed it with Biden. I don’t live in Georgia and don’t know Warnock well. I saw the famous video where he appears to support M4A but it doesn’t surprise me that he will settle for less. If you are telling me that he and Biden think alike and both are against m4a I’ll be somewhat surprised. I’d thought he might have more integrity than Harris.

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#21

Tonight, America’s giant problem is unity.
Over 85% of republicans, dems and indies polled say USA is falling apart.

The goons of eight, nine days ago are still
loose. Only 200 identified and on FBI’s arrest
list. Perhaps these are the various klan 'leaders.
They may use another moniker, but they are kkk.
Same as mid 1950’s and before. Violence, intimidation,
and the local police look the other way, as always.
Against blacks, jews, and so many others.
Too bad they did not have loving mothers.
Probleee had their heads smacked instead
of a corrective pat on the ass.

tucker carlson defending assassins into congress 8 days ago on every evening and he has over 4 million viewers.

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#22

i hope your faith is rewarded. it’ll be a first.

but speaking of the 15 min wage hike, which I love–but not in this bill, especially when you’re going to need some GOP support.

Who doesn’t think that’s a poison pill?

It’s not the first time during this mess that intentionally non-negotiable demands were stuck in by either party to scuttle potential settlement.

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#23

Pelosi’s stimulus last March, after which she angrily assured us the People’s support was coming was not used to stimulate the economy as much as to capture it, and secure the standing of those who were already the biggest winners in the rigged casino of American Capitalism, where people’s wins are taxed and corporations losses are comped by the House.

Stock buybacks and bonuses for the rich, and two-mile lines of cars for food support for the citizens, have been Nancy’s response to the People’s needs so far.

The people have a lot of catching up to do, and we never will before We have Our Own Party to stand up to the Corporations two parties.

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#24

It will take 60 votes in the Senate to get some of these things done. Executive orders can’t do it all.
The relaxing of numerous regulations regarding the environment, etc. shouldn’t be used as bartering chips, either. They will be, though, dammit.
Lots of questionable U.S.D.A. sausage will be made and consumed in the near term. We may even become more like Francophiles and give new meaning to horse trading and food production. Heck, we may be in for a new Swamp-based sausage, Mr. Ed’s Mystery Meats.
Bon Appetit!

#25

Well, there’s plenty of goalpost moving to go around for everyone on this topic:

~https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1343370839673061377

Biden’s proposal matches exactly what Sanders, who will be Budget Committee Chair, was requesting:

Mr. Sanders said in the interview that he wanted an initial, emergency stimulus package to be “big.” He thinks it must include an additional $1,400 in direct payments for adults and children, on top of the $600 that Congress just passed,

~https://www.sanders.senate.gov/in-the-news/atop-the-powerful-budget-committee-at-last-bernie-sanders-wants-to-go-big/

What if Biden’s proposal was tailored exactly to the amount progressives wanted to add to their own proposals barely over a week ago?

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#26

2021 America still hasn’t got public health insurance. Hey, at least you’re getting a check for 1400 bucks. Almost didn’t even get that.

#27

I will believe it when I see it.

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#28

On Dec. 27, 2020, Trump signed the economic stimulus bill that authorized the $600 checks. Then on Jan. 4, 2021, Biden told a Georgia rally that if they voted for Ossoff and Warnock, and the Senate went Democratic, then the $2,000 checks would be sent out ASAP. Watch Biden say this here, at about mark 39:00.
~https://www.c-span.org/video/?507692-1/president-elect-biden-campaigns-democratic-senate-candidates-georgia&fbclid=IwAR3MFsLSITBHP5Iw_HUCDUuXfEzv_l6V3hcTxY5pCvOMnyeIJQoG_zhTOWQ

If Biden meant $1,400 checks, why did he say $2,000? Looks like bait-and-switch to me.

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#30

Whether it be $1400 or $2000, I find the imprecision of language so early in the game a worrying sign. There should not have to be a questioning of intent.

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#31

I did look it up before the election----and both Dems running in Georgia support the Biden proposal----public option----dropping Medicare to 60. This is just the long way to single payer-at some point maybe people will realize the scam.

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#32

That $15 an hour nonsense may have made sense when it was first proposed, about ten years ago. But now it is sorely lacking, a day late if you will, and many dollars short.
Working a 40 hour week, $15 and hour is just 30 thousand dollars.
But hey, 30 thousand a year might actually be something in a third world country…oh…wait…

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#33

I made that very same point over on RawStory. I was of course called a commie.
He has said $2000 a few times now, no caveats about it including the $600 already sent out.
The messaging here for Biden and the incoming democratic congress is terrible.

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#34

That tells you that the current proposal is not what the dems want, because they know the GOP and blue dog dems will negotiate it down to about half, which is where the dems really want it to be, if it can’t be zero.

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#35

You beat me to that one. The Dems still haven’t figured out how to negotiate.
When you need 10, you ask for twenty, hope for get fifteen, and settle for 10. You don’t ask for ten, with the expectation of only getting 7, and praying you get 5, if you get anything at all.
It reminds me of an old poker players saying. If you’re looking around the table wondering who the sucker is, it’s probably you.
Yup, it’s us.

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#36

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson is an evil establishment fake populist who lies on a daily basis. Even when he had tried to be a little bit sincere just for once - when admitting that Biden had won the election - he backpaddled as soon as his deluded viewers switched to Newsmax and/or OAN because for a single time he for hadn‘t told them what they wanted to hear …

After all, his grift is all about the money, who cares that he and his channel - for decades now - has polarized the public and led the minds of their viewers down the rabbit hole of an “alternate fact” reality … Definitely not him!

Guess it‘s no coincidence that Tucker rhymes with mother*** …

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#37

The shit show has been on going for years. Let’s hope some good things come our way over the next four.
Right now we should be worrying more about the crazies on the right. Especially if you live in a populated area.

#38

This is typical Obama admin capitulation.
If you need $10, ask for $9, end up with $5, and blame the other side.

Republicans are not going to agree to $15 an hour and a free Covid handout. 4 years ago the Dems opposed $15 minimum wage.

A-holes at WAPO are already blathering about how this ‘bold plan’ is much bigger than Obama’s handout to the wealthy. As if this is going to breeze through approval.

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#41

And mocking Rep Presley getting death threats-----Carlson is sick.

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#42

2016-42% of workers making under $15-------I don’t think someone making $7.25 would call this nonsense. And as Biden pointed out Florida just passed $15--------