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Coronavirus Proves It: We Need Medicare For All

Originally published at http://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/03/25/coronavirus-proves-it-we-need-medicare-all

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One woman who contracted Covid in the USA and was hospitalized received a bill for 35000$$ from the for profit health care providers. It was a pay or die scenario. The MAFIA with its protection rackets that help ensure “Your business just don’t happen to burn down” would be envious of such a setup.

The only people that support such a system down in the USA would be those with their hands in the cookie jar or those with money and lots of it.


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Yeah, “but this is America.”

don’t hold your breath

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Trump was correct when he said “anybody who wants a COVID-19 test can get one”. He just failed to finish the sentence with AS LONG AS YOU GO ABROAD TO GET THE TEST.

In our County you need to be brought in unconscious on a stretcher to be considered eligible for a COVID-19 test.


Unfortunately, those who understand the US healthcare system already know this. I have argued for yrs that our current system is this: It the best healthcare system that money can buy, if you have no money, it’s the worst.
However trying to convince the majority that we should change over has not been working. An example would be Bernie’s plan which has been rejected by democrats. If you can’t get democrats to support such a system, then you have failed.
While it’s sensible to switch, americans get scared easily about new things. And this would be a major change, which makes americans even more scared.


True, Ray. Very difficult to get a Covid-19 test in our county in NE Iowa. We’re next to 2 lockdown states, Illinois and Wisconsin, and it’s very difficult to get tested. One has to go to the hospital, and have major symptoms.

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The number of COVID-19 cases is increasing rapidly, and we’re already seeing the massive strains on our health care system. In Atlanta, intensive care units across the city are already at full capacity, and New York City hospitals are nearly maxed out.

In the midst of this, it’s absolutely crucial that we protect the nurses and health care workers on the frontlines so they can continue to save lives and contain the spread of the virus.

Nurses are organizing across the country to call for the personal protective equipment (PPE), staffing, and protocols needed to protect themselves and their patients — and we must do everything we can to support them.

We need a massive grassroots movement to pressure Congress to do the right thing

From The Washington Post: Yeah, SARS 2 is really this bad:

Hospitals on the front lines of the pandemic are engaged in a heated private debate over a calculation few have encountered in their lifetimes — how to weigh the “save at all costs” approach to resuscitating a dying patient against the real danger of exposing doctors and nurses to the contagion of coronavirus.

The conversations are driven by the realization that the risk to staff amid dwindling stores of protective equipment — such as masks, gowns and gloves — may be too great to justify the conventional response when a patient “codes,” and their heart or breathing stops.

Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago has been discussing a do-not-resuscitate policy for infected patients, regardless of the wishes of the patient or their family members — a wrenching decision to prioritize the lives of the many over the one.

Richard Wunderink, one of Northwestern’s intensive-care medical directors, said hospital administrators would have to ask Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker for help in clarifying state law and whether it permits the policy shift.

“It’s a major concern for everyone,” he said. “This is something about which we have had lots of communication with families, and I think they are very aware of the grave circumstances.”

Officials at George Washington University Hospital in the District say they have had similar conversations, but for now will continue to resuscitate covid-19 patients using modified procedures, such as putting plastic sheeting over the patient to create a barrier. The University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle, one of the country’s major hot spots for infections, is dealing with the problem by severely limiting the number of responders to a contagious patient in cardiac or respiratory arrest.

Several large hospital systems — Atrium Health in the Carolinas, Geisinger in Pennsylvania and regional Kaiser Permanente networks — are looking at guidelines that would allow doctors to override the wishes of the coronavirus patient or family members on a case-by-case basis due to the risk to doctors and nurses, or a shortage of protective equipment, say ethicists and doctors involved in those conversations. But they would stop short of imposing a do-not-resuscitate order on every coronavirus patient. The companies declined to comment.

For more go to The Washington Post

As reported in The Washington Post, hospitals across the US America are considering do-not-resuscitate orders regardless of the wishes of patients and/or family.

Education is going to be key to combatting decades of propaganda especially regarding socialism. COVID-19 (SARS 2) should be driving home the point that we are not separate despite appearances.

One would think with the crises at hand, change in our healthcare system would occur.

But it won’t.

They’ll be the usual distractions and diversions, blaming China and Russia, etc. Dems will put their hopes in Biden who will do everything in his power to keep the status quo. Remember his comment re: Italy and Single Payer during the debates?

Not sure how it gets done but relying on the current power structure running this country to enact any meaningful change is just plain foolish. We have to think of a better way to move the needle.

You will also get your shills , paid to post , coming to boards such as this to claim that Corporations and drug companies not being able to profit off of this crisis is akin to “stealing from them” and that the only thing that motivates peoples to develop new drugs or cures or to treat the sick is the profit motive.

They are here already.

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There is more to this than M4A as many/most hospitals in the U.S. are already non-profit. (a lot of people do not understand this as a concept) It does nothing for this:


There are plenty of shills for M4A as well!!!

The total charges to treat COVID-19 within hospital settings are projected to range from at least $362 billion to as high as $1.45 trillion, according to a new analysis.


I’m a Democrat who wants to see universal coverage and significant cost controls/cutting ASAP, as do a great majority of Dems.

The first steps are getting a solid Democratic majority in the Senate and Biden winning. A Republican-majority Senate would never pass any enhancement (e.g.;a public option) in the ACA and certainly not a switch to M4A.