People always talk about left “centrist” (center of what?), but the issue is really whether we need superficial or structural changes. Like, in healthcare, we have a nightmare of a healthcare system that is an international embarrassment. Tens of thousands die each year, most expensive and inefficient system there is, mass bankruptcies and job lock too. So, can that system be kept as is at the foundational level but moderately improved in such a way that it performs as systems in other countries? Good luck making that argument on policy. Can we address the environmental crisis (which is much larger than carbon emissions alone) with things like cap and trade programs, or do we need structural changes? Again, good luck to the “centrists”, if objective reality and actual data and studies matter. And the so called “moderates” can claim to be the adults in the room, but they have to explain if what they are calling for meets the challenges we are facing. Clearly not the case. The moderates and the right have been running the show for decades, and everything is falling apart. Look at the international economic system they have created, the dominant institutions like the WTO, and deals like NAFTA. Also, good luck fighting fascism if you don’t radically change policy. Cause the context feeding fascism isn’t going away without radical policy changes. What the “adults in the room” call impossible are actual solutions, and you would have to be living under a rock to pretend that their positions are not largely a reflection of who financially supports and enriches them.