Originally published at: Democrats Need to Stand Up to Corporate Extremists in Their Own Party
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Good luck with that!
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Corporate extremists make up the majority of the Undemocratic Party.
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I really canât comment on any suppositions in this article unlit one thing happens. Chuck Schumer and Nancy need to make these problem children VOTE! Make them put their vote where their faulty ideology is. Then let the chips fall where they may.
I just donât believe for a second that Sinema and Manchin have the intestinal fortitude to stand on their own and vote against their party. Letâs face it, what would either of them do? If they could have won in their respective states as republicans they would have run as republicans. But they didnât because they canât
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It seems that We the People become less and less important to many of the elected ones. Perhaps they do not realize that we do not need 11 million people becoming homeless,. Perhaps they should understand that even a $15 an hour wage cannot afford a decent space to live.
Perhaps too they do not recognize that corporations are NOT people and those few lines were not written by the courtâ but by by someone who assisted a Justice. Perhaps what the people will tear down will be the CEOS and not the corporations.
It was refreshing to hear Arizona dump their disgust on Sinema, and truly Manchin contributes so little to We the People that his time in Congress is truly self serving.
I cannot fathom why $3 .5 Billion over 10 years is thought to be evil, but Israel will be getting even more money in billions. Shouldnât the citizens do better that the other countries that we give money to?
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Both parties to be strictly accurate. There is, however, a major difference, not to be ignored or whitewashed behind obscuring and overblown nonsense such as your one liner
The Democrats are trying to enact legislation that would benefit every single American citizen, not every democrat sadly obviously but a great majority thereof.
On the other hand, the Republicans are trying to restrict the rights of Americans, overthrow our democracy in fact, acting illegally and in violation of their respective oaths of office by refusing to consider even discussing proposed legislation, not even in committee. Just as, in the past, they refused a presidents right to have nominees for various offices even heard.
Our expensive elections are a root cause of corporate allegiance, as campaigning requires vast sums of money, an average Senate race costs upwards of ten million dollars to wage successfully. This is no accident but one way the corporate and the wealthy maintain control.
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Oh, I just canât take this Pollyanna routine anymore. Since when have the Dems stood up to ANYTHING! Get real. The Dems are the enemy. Either talk about grass roots takeover or third party. But stop with the Dems should do this or that or whatever useless hand wringing.
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Exactly! They have the power to do so. Obviously, they lack the desire.
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Are they really? Or, is this proposed progressive lite legislation just for show. Why is it that the Democrats consistently find just the right number of Congressmen to derail the proposed legislation? In this congress number is two. If they held 60 seats, the number would be 10 and theyâd find the 10 to needed to derail.
Continuing with a defense of the Dâs after theyâve demonstrated the same behavior for at least the last 30 years contributes to the problem and undermines solutions.
Iâm certainly not the first to say it, the democrats are just the left wing of the same bird.
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Your assessment is 100% correct!
No. The Democrats are NOT trying. Theyâre pretending to try. Letâs be real.
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Thatâs exactly where I fear this whole fiasco was intended to end. Just another âwell, we tried, but those big meanie republicans just wouldnât let us pass anythingâŚ.but we still love you (as long as you donât ask any questions and keep voting for us) gambit.
But hey, they got away with it in 2009-2010 and 1993-94.
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You are wrong about West Virginia and Arizona.
These two would win as republicans.
As of tonight, sept 27th, we have much larger economic disaster coming this week. If debt ceiling not raised, and intermediate funds allocated, we may have soldiers missing their pay checks âŚâŚ and orphans and grandmother on social security also.
Every common dreamer will write, âthis will never happenâ.
But it gets worser. We default on our treasury notes because Janet ainât quite bright enough to play three shells and a pea. Federal treasury Default will panic some folks
And the bond rating will be lowered in nyc, followed by interest rate hikes.
How high, you ask
Viet nam era rates.
Young piled up credit card debt with COVID climate.
Middle East wars are worth seven trillion of debt
Ps: claw back
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Iâd be happy if Democrats just stood up to the military corporate extremists.
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âŚWhat is more infuriating is that of these corporate Dems (Iâm sorry, they are not âmoderatesâ or âcentristsâ) have no trouble voting each year in favour of funding for the âWar Departmentâ. For 2022 the Pentagon is about to receive a total of 740$ billion in funding. OK, so now letâs take that number and multiply it by 10 and the total for the next decades comes to a whopping 7.4$ trillion, more than twice the total for the Budget Resolution measure they look to gut.
Of course they refuse ignore that fact because many of the corporations involved in the âwar industryâ are most likely also donors and/or have shareholders who are donors as well as dump millions into PACs along with lobbying members of Congress.
This is why big money needs to be eliminated for politics once and for all as it continually works against the best interests of this nation and needs of itâs citizens and only benefits a tiny percent.
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Republicans are corporate wolves in wolvesâ clothing. Democrats are corporate wolves in sheepâs clothing.
It doesnât matter whoâs in office. It matters whoâs in power, and it ainât We the People.
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âŚindeed. Mitch and the âRsâ would rather let the nationâs economy tank than vote to raise or suspend the ceiling, even though the Dems did so three times during the previous Regime when T---- drove the debt up by about 8$ trillion in only 4 years. (about 3$ trillion in only 5 months). Defaulting on the debt will have serious implications as it will throw us into a recession possibly deeper and longer than the one in 2008. This means millions out of work, high unemployment just as the economy has been recovering from the pandemic, with most losing their homes, their apartments, and ending up on the street.
This is why the filibuster needs to go now so that the debt ceiling can be raised or suspended without the âRsâ ability to obstruct it. Sen Manchin ârepresentsâ a very poor state one which he will destroy economically if he keeps treating the filibuster as being so âsacredâ. it has been nothing but a tool of âRâ obstructionism so far. and given them the leverage to make demands on any attempts at bipartisanship.
The 1.2$ trillion infrastructure act (which covers the next 5 years) was more of a win for the âRsâ than the Dems and Biden Administration given the cuts, eliminations, and the final means âagreed onâ to offset most of the cost (originally it was to primarily be funded by giving he IRS the resources it needs to go after wealthy and corporate tax cheats who have been shortchanging this nation for decades).
Yeah, Iâm damn worried myself.
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Fascinatingâpeople can be centrist , moderate, far-Right extremist, and corporate or dangerous Wall Street radicalâand smile and smile and be villains. Bloom does make it clear that this is part of his point. But none of us were ever lost, were we?
Bravo. But a few points need address:
- Since Wall Street people comprise the elected party, the machine, and the heritage media, since even the âsquadâ votes present to pass radical rightist Wall Street bills, how will Democrats oppose them all?
- Given that primaries have been at least as easy to rig as elections, what advantage does staying Democrat give to a resistance to Democrats?
- SInce most voters register as independents, what room might Dems bent on resistance find to work with people outside of the party?
If we assume that peace, equality, liberty, and well being are goals, the strategies of Democratic voters have failed. But this is not because options have been many or the project easy, so we get nowhere just exhorting them to stand up. The elected Democrats will not; the rank and file must: letâs address How.
Why not this:
- Vote against corporatists, Dem or Pug, primary or election
- Participate in demonstration
- Make lifestyle changes to avoid feeding the beasts
- Organize a legitimate countermovement willing to withhold cooperation and votes
I am fairly convinced this is easier outside of party, but I would sure welcome an actually resistant Resistance.
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The proposed legislation stands on its own merits. Sorry you think otherwise but try and read its contentsâŚ
I do understand that, while their efforts appear feeble ( and rightly so), I think you leap to an unsupportable conclusion.