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Democrats, Trump, and the Ongoing, Dangerous Refusal to Learn the Lesson of Brexit


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Democrats, Trump, and the Ongoing, Dangerous Refusal to Learn the Lesson of Brexit

Glenn Greenwald

The parallels between the U.K.’s shocking approval of the Brexit referendum in June and the U.S.’ even more shocking election of Donald Trump as president last night are overwhelming. Elites (outside of populist right-wing circles) aggressively unified across ideological lines in opposition to both. Supporters of Brexit and Trump were continually maligned by the dominant media narrative (validly or otherwise) as primitive, stupid, racist, xenophobic, and irrational.


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Great journalist.
One of the only Real McCoys.
Correct analysis.


#4

When Drew says "these three policy proposals are dirt cheap" he means that they could be funded for the next decade with the $20 plus trillion that Congress put US taxpayers on the hook for to bail out the too-big-to-fail banks that crashed the economy in 2008.

In response to Glen's last paragraph, be reminded that the art and science of blaming the victims and rewarding the perpetrators continues to be refined to new heights in the US, contributing to the arrogance that has now made the Democratic Party weaker than it has been in nearly a century when you consider how few elected seats Democrats hold in state and federal offices.


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Addiction experts tell us that most addicts must hit rock bottom before they can begin to reform. Kicking their three plus decade corporate money addiction is step one for the DNC. As with any addiction, not all addicts are reformable and the DNC may indeed be nonreformable.


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It seems most timely to post a 3-way conversation between Cornel West, Chris Hedges and Richard Wolff on Thomas Paine, the context of his time and the dynamics for a man who engaged plain speech producing Common Sense - a man who had left school at 12 years of age yet produced some of the most enduring thinking and skillful perspectives


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In hindsight, maybe its not the best option to nominate someone who only won large primary victories in the deep south red states...

Wonder if the democrats will learn anything from it? I somehow doubt it.


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If the past thirty years are any indication, the Democratic Party learned that nominating Clinton sustained the corporate money they are addicted to whereas nominating Sanders would have redirected most of that money to the GOP.


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It was repeatedly pointed out in these threads at that time, that Clinton's "firewall" against the Sanders campaign was winning her primary victories in states she was most likely to lose in the general.

Hubris -- used by Kevin Gosztola in his post-election analysis of how the Democrats lost to the execrable Trump -- is the correct word to describe the mind-set of the leadership of the DNC and the Clinton campaign. They simply could not allow themselves to look at the mountain of plain evidence that they were wrong in so many ways. So full of themselves in their supposedly historic mission to place Clinton back in the White House as the first woman president of the USA, they could not allow themselves to confront their own disdain for the desperate concerns of common working people, or disturb their own tight alliance with the financial and corporate looting class that is the prime source of such widespread desperation.


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Hubris driven by an addiction to corporate money.

Beware of "historic mission". "Historic" rings hollow unless something changes for the better and historic enhances identity politics which work against a functional democracy.

Hitler WAS after all the first Austrian painter to lead Germany...very "historic" indeed.


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Spot on regarding the posit that Bernie Sanders would have beaten Dump. In fact, a fraternity brother of mine who does direct mail for the GOP told me that if Bernie had been in the race versus Trump, the following states would have not gone for the Orange Jizz Goblin: North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, & Wisconsin. Add in the states Hillary Clinton carried and we would be talking about a president-elect Sanders.
A silver lining may be that this does away with the corporate Democrats who have perfected grasping defeat from the jaws of victory via triangulation; if they have truly absorbed the lesson Glenn Greenwald elucidated. So far, that appears mixed.


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"The doubling down on their (liberal elites') unbridled contempt for those who defied them (anybody who didn't vote Clinton) and steadfastly refusing to examine what drove their insubordination" is on full display today in Garrison Keillor's pathetic article in the Washington Post wherein Keillor wears his liberal elitism as a badge of honor as he tells Trump voters to deal with it while the liberal elites pursue leisure activities for four years. As Glenn warns us, prepare for a deluge of this type of reaction.


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I'm also reminded of the 80s and the epidemic of cocaine on wall street, the military aircraft unloading in arkansas and the entire of bevy of activity similar to the 'mind-blowing' speed of 'blow' and its seeming to be inextricable from path to the 'derivatives' debacle. There is a cautionary social aspect too. The coca leaf in its natural form and context is a culturally millennial presence that is legitimate without any of the destructive aspects of its derivative cocaine. At this point the dissociative patterns of the derivative mindset seem so deeply embedded that the DNC debacle might be interpreted as parallel to the 'enabler' in the addiction scenario.


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Although I was optimistic this morning, after seeing how much lashing out at the victims and failing to place responsibility on the Democratic Party that I am witnessing in the mainstream media today, it appears that the the DNC may not be reformable.


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My big problem is that Trump supporters elected the exact type of person they supposedly despise: a wealthy jerk who treats the working person with complete indifference and even gloats about ripping them off, has nothing but contempt for them and has manipulated their angst to further enrich himself. Hmm. Explain that already.


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Too much press given to Zika Virus and no press given to Stockholm Syndrome epidemic sweeping the US ?


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I wish.

At the end of a Dracula film the Count is destroyed. There's a happy ending, the blood sucking demon is no more.

Until the sequel when something revives the Count and then Dracula is as undead as ever, ready to wreck his havoc on all.

The Neo-Liberals who dominate the Democratic Party are just like that.


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As I suggested elsewhere. What happens in the current duopoly wherein the elctorate can not seem to remember what happnes from one administration to the next , is that a failing of the current administration of Trump brings the dead back to life again.

Their lifeblood is failure.


#23

Most excellent analysis!


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The problem with those 3 has to do with the Far Right Repubs are not on board (or in favor) of any of that. They will shutter the Post Office and seize those funds. They are going to go all-out on privatization. They are going to do what Bush 2 did when he took office and was drunk with the win, drunk on power and unleashed the Neocon War profiteers on us. There was a surplus of money and he went through that in less than 90 days, running up a deficit.

This will play-out once more since the GOP has totally control of the main branches of govt. They have been eager for this day and it has arrived.


#25

These statements are contradictory. One can argue that the Democratic Party is already dead, a rotting fish with the head already gone. The greater part of the population of the US must admit that it is not Number One, that it is way down the list of viable world nation states. Bangladesh is down there due to the reality that most of the nation will be under water in ten or twenty years. The US is down there due to its population's gross ignorance, hubris, and a false sense of entitlement. Waste, global heating, its penchant for endless resource consumption and unending war are breathing down it's neck. A radical social and economic paradigm shift can provide the only hope for it's survival.