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Despite Possible Blowback, Snowden Decries Anti-Democratic Forces in Russia


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Despite Possible Blowback, Snowden Decries Anti-Democratic Forces in Russia

Jon Queally, staff writer

Despite the possible threat it could pose to his own long-term safety and security, NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden on Sunday publicly criticized the appearance of ballot fraud and democratic corruption during national elections in Russia, the country where he has enjoyed political asylum since 2013.


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We live within a technological “reality” whereby it is possible to “document” almost anything via video. Was this an actual polling place? How am I to know? Were there not international observers working the election throughout Russia? So great is the temptation to take the lazy way out and believe the first message we are told, that we may well be played for fools. Or the message could be true–at least in part. (If the video shows what is reported, did such activity affect the election result?) The Orwell-Huxley combo platter has really jumbled up the messaging systems of the world. The result is that all too often beliefs trump truths, particularly because beliefs can be tailored to an individual’s sense of acceptance, whereas naked truth forces one to deal with cellulite, warts,…


#3

I have no more certainty on this than you suggest. I do, however, until shown otherwise, trust this particular messenger, and not only because I do not believe him such a fool as to be willing to get himself poisoned by telling lies.


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My post was aimed at the times in which we find ourselves rather than the specific message or messenger. Please note that I laid no criticism at Mr. Snowden’s feet.


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A related bit from MIT tech review on millions of Facebook users abused by Bannon for 2016 election:
" The New York Times and the Observer reported that CA actually had data on over 50M people, as social ties of the 270K were tapped without permission.
Facebook says It wasn’t a data breach and people knowingly provided the info.
Lawmakers in the US and UK want investigations. The Washington Post says Facebook may have breached FTC privacy rules by letting the data escape."

We are undergoing a ground shift due to the internet and related technologies similar to that of the invention of the printing press - the Gutenberg revolution. Most notable being that it took generations before people realized that the medium was massaging perception, homogenizing methods and altering the human environment to a linear regimentation never before experienced by humans. It was the birth - as Rabelais mindblowing Gargantua and Pantagruel (1494-1553) of the gargantuan scale of applied knowledge from the “… mere addictive association of homogenous parts…” (what better way to assess the timber of today’s situation). Yes, in the 16th century Rabelais envisioned the foregoing, as noted by Marshall McCluhan in the Gutenberg Galaxy


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What an interesting juxtaposition of articles on CD’s homepage today. Eskow’s headline first caught my attention: The Resistance Needs Better Heroes. I thought I might be getting a history lesson on lesser known heroes of past movements. Well I got a history lesson all right. A history lesson I actually lived through, which dissected the messy and less than stellar history of CIA and FBI operatives. It warned us not to lionize Mueller, McCabe, et al. But that wrongheaded headline got me thinking about current movement heroes and the lack thereof.

Then I opened this story. It turns out heroes do exist in the current day. Is Edward Snowden about to join the ranks with Harriet Tubman and Rosa Parks? He’s certainly heading in the right direction.


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I’ve never understood why anyone would give their personal info. to Facebook, or get on Facebook. I know a woman who posted everything she did through out the day, till I pointed out that her house could be robbed when she posted “I’m going to the store, be back soon”.

I have to agree with Stacy in the article, seems like pushing you’re luck.


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I had a fb page and never posted or used it - took it down (at least in practice, whether or not thecompany did is another question apparently) a few years ago. It is an electronic form of autoeroticism (masturbation) that that addicts the user to non-interactional possession of “information”. That is then screwed with by marketing methodologies - also doubling down on the distortions with I-Like-statistics eroticism for profit… and petty soon the desert dries your bones with not so much as a ‘bye y’all’.


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Oh no! Not Edward S. falling into the anti-Russia pit!!! How the “mighty” (are) have fallen! Say it ain’t so!! I’m shocked there is gambling going on in the casino!


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I have a facebook page with exactly two “friends” - a sister and a brother. The sister uses it exactly as ReconFire describes - posting real-time commentary and pictures of everywhere she goes. My brother limits it to news and commentary on stuff pertinent to his local and international activist projects. Me, I only rarely post to mine at all, using it only to be amused and informed by their posts.


#11

Oh no! Why is Snowden getting behind the “new cold war” against the great anti-imperialist hero Putin?

The US-neuroto-left will be abandoning Snowden now.


#12

I don’t understand why Snowden would be putting himself at risk to state well known views about Russian elections. Since Putin isn’t quite putting up the numbers Saddam put up in Iraq maybe he needs to up his game. Perhaps giant Saddam-like statues of Putin throughout Russia and large billboards of Putin everywhere. That might help him break 90% and show how much the Russian citizens like him as their leader.


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Thanks for the book reference! it seems, based on the Wikipedia article, that Mr. McCluhan uncannily predicted the revolution (or, I fear, catastrophe) of human relations being produced by the internet almost 30 years before the WWW was invented!


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Because, as Snowden wrote in the “tweet” reproduced in this article:

“Life is a choice to live for something, or to die for nothing.”

(I’m printing that right now and putting it on my wall)


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Snowden’s quote, at the top, leads me to think he might not be so much limiting his thoughts to Russia, but rather, more about each of us doing what we can to to address the issues in our world.
True, Snowden has been a brave and persistent whistleblower, but his legacy is more on the order of getting others to speak out around the world.


#16

Ballot stuffing was more widespread in America before electronic voting. Now its done here by programming the machines to flip votes or delete preople from the registry or, or, or…


#17

Methinks Putin would have won anyway. Overzealous followers, or a top-down effort?


#18

I too thought that was an amazing quote. I poked around a bit to see if it was similar to another famous quote - it seems familiar, but perhaps only because it is that good. May it live on well after Snowden and all of us are gone.


#19

Do you think Snowden might be saying things to get more favorable treatment from the US government if he returns here? I think he wants to come back here badly and may have developed a strategy although a risky one, to criticize the Russian government. We know one thing, when he plans do so something he plans meticulously. For someone who cares so much about free speech it must be very difficult for him to live in Russia. He has gotten himself into a very difficult situation. Over here he is both a hero and a villain. I think something is brewing to make statements in Russia criticizing Russian elections. He may have come up with some sort of plan.


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Well, we’d best rush to war against Putin, like we did against Saddam, who we formerly supported.

Because that turned out soooo well.