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'Disgusting': Senate Republicans' Tax Plan Will Scrap Obamacare Mandate


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'Disgusting': Senate Republicans' Tax Plan Will Scrap Obamacare Mandate

Jessica Corbett, staff writer

"The GOP tax bill is now straight-up 'take away your healthcare to pay for tax cuts for corporations,'" says MoveOn.org's Ben Wikler

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Well the braindeads should like this one: Get us hands off my body! No one tells me what to do even though I have no teeth and am dying.


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It should be remembered by “progressives” that OBCare mandate requires that U.S. citizens and residents by PRIVATE insurance. To defend this henious aspect of OBCare further retards the move toward tax-funded Single-Payer.


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similar reaction here: so, they’re scrapping the mandate? isn’t that the most odious feature of AbominationCare?

And still the Democrats are playing loose with language–
they’re taking away your heathcare!. No, they’re taking away your ability to pay for insurance, which, granted, is bad enough. But it’s not the same thing.

The biggest reason the scum Democrats have gotten away with this trash of a law is their ability to conflate insurance with care. The GOP, because they’re congenitally stupid, might give us another shot at single payer. Of course, that depends on whether or not the Democratic rank and file can administer the leadership enema they need to be able to get it passed this time.

I’m not holding my breath.


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Anyway you slice it up, for me, this is a crime against humanity. Millions of folk’s loosing their healthcare so rich folk’s get a tax cut is sick. If this goes down and is signed into Law there will more than likely be people that die. Even if it is just one person it is a crime.


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Reducing the budget with a policy that will increase deaths domestically so they can maintain military funding that causes deaths overseas, and the American people let them get away with it. Insane.


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It’s worse than insane - it’s evil.


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Single-payer is not coming to the USA anytime soon. Maybe yo have not noticed? The capitalists won the war decades ago…


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Yeah, I heard your candidate Hillary mention something about universal health care. Well, two things actually:


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The mandate is how people with preexisting conditions can purchase insurance, including those receiving subsidized insurance on the exchanges. People will lose health insurance if the mandate disappears. That is the point of eliminating it.


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You’re a self centered moron.


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Ah, irritating Bifford J Williamson, IV is always a treat…:slight_smile:


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Good thing we have Trump then.


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Are you truly irritated? Really? Taking health insurance away from millions on the other hand troubles you not all.


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There are few actual progressives who comment on this site. Most are are just hate filled and bitter, with no real interest in other people.


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Can people be honest about this? The individual mandate is a way to make people buy a product they don’t want, to increase insurance company profits. That was the way the Obama administration got their slight expansion of health care coverage through, by taxing the middle class and working class. Obamacare was the classic case of Democratic collaboration with Wall Street while trying to seem progressive at the same time. It pretty much guaranteed Democratic election losses for decades to come. Get behind single-payer or get out of the game.


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“Should any political party attempt to abolish social security unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.” - Dwight D, Eisenhower

He was right about their stupidity but wrong about their numbers. The vermin are crawling all over Washington. Well actually their number IS negligible, compared to the size that of the population, but they have all the power. Or do they?..

“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” - Declaration of Independence

Inevitably, at some point it time, sooner or later, consent will be withdrawn and in the words of Eisenhower, we will not “hear of that party again in our political history”.

We can be sure of this because history is full of the rise and fall of oligarchs. Unfortunately, we haven’t learn how to keep this from happening, as the propensity to breed greedy despots appears to be intrinsic to our kind, a potential in all of us.


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No, you are terribly naive to think that fair and equitable worker-run economy which provide benefits like guaranteed medical care for all can be achieved by voting for this or that presidential candidate… Do you honestly think that single payer would be possible if Sanders was president - even if he had a fully supportive US congress behind him? Do you think that capitalists presiding over a hundreds-billion-dollar industry will peacefully concede their power that easily? Are they conceding it in Venezuela, or did they concede it in Chile back in 1973? There is one place they conceded it, Cuba in 1959. Guess why?

Have I gone completely over you head yet?


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Author sez: “That reduction is key to the Republicans’ tax bill, which cannot add more than $1.5 trillion to federal deficits.”

Sure. $1.5 trillion here, $1.5 trillion there, and pretty soon you’re talking real money.


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There is no screaming need to balance the budget. Congress could eliminate taxes altogether and spend as much as they like without borrowing a penny, by simply taking back their Constitutional authority. Or they can leave the Fed intact and simply require them to run more QE (AKA negative interest loans to government).

The challenge is to convince Congress to spend money on programs that increase faith in government, since that faith is the only thing backing the US dollar as the global exchange currency. For example, instead of blowing things up and killing people, the USA could pay $100 to every adult on the planet. It would boost the economy, stabilize the dollar, and eliminate enemies by turning them into friends.