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That was the rough number I was familiar with. More searching reveals:

~https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blood-clots-as-prevalent-with-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccine-as-with-astrazenecas-report-2021-04-15

According to the study, 4 in 1 million people experience cerebral venous thrombosis after getting the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, versus 5 in 1 million people for the AstraZeneca vaccine. The risk of getting CVT is much higher for those who get COVID-19 – 39 in a million patients – than it is for those who get vaccinated. AstraZeneca’s vaccine use has been halted or limited in many countries on blood clot concerns.

~https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/13/986767069/johnson-johnson-vaccine-and-blood-clots-what-you-need-to-know

6 women with blood clots, 7 million shots (J&J is 1-shot)

The CDC said Tuesday that among the six reported cases, one was fatal and one patient is in critical condition.

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And here’s a link to the NIH article: ~https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7142689/

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That is an “NIH article” in the same sense that “The Da Vinci Code” is a New York Public Library book. The NIH has nothing to do with it except including it in their digital library. The article is published in an unreliable low-level journal where authors must pay $2250 to have their work published.

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Stop it!..emergency use authorization is NOT the same as FDA approval. Stop spreading that fascist corporate word salad.

Your fealty to the wishes of empire is impressive if you really believe everything you wrote.

“The only risk of death” is a statement that does not have science backing it up. Science does not equal what the TeeWee or CD tells you.

Your last statement belies the disdain with which you hold your fellow wo/man who may not have agreed to the dominant narrative pushed by empire. There is a difference between propaganda and truth, and if one decides to set aside the propaganda it does not equate with a death wish.

~https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/20-countries-suspended-astrazeneca-vaccine-yet-msm-never-stopped-selling-it/
~https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56656356
~https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1382293860882210820
~https://twitter.com/eileeniorio/status/1382346808668647427
~https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/1381925612743499778
~https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/janssen-covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions
~https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/most-at-higher-risk-vaccine-adverse-event-than-covid-19-stanford-finds-masks-ineffective/
~https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1382116035751464960
~https://twitter.com/ukmfa1/status/1382366479459422212
~https://twitter.com/business/status/1382379639264395264
~https://twitter.com/taylorhudak/status/1382074931278721039
~https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/michael-yeadon-interview-former-pfizer-vp-speaks-out-on-dangers-of-mrna-vaccines-covid-illusion/
~https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/13/more-people-likely-wont-want-jjs-covid-vaccine-following-latest-issues-with-blood-clots.html
~https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/13/more-people-likely-wont-want-jjs-covid-vaccine-following-latest-issues-with-blood-clots.html
~https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1382330254375653377
~https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1382017687350603785
~https://twitter.com/OlliePh62865026/status/1382347886894141460
~https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/tucker-carlson-vaccines-work-or-they-dont/?itm_term=home
~https://twitter.com/naomirwolf/status/1382131745684910086
~https://www.timesofisrael.com/hospital-blamed-over-womens-death-from-heart-inflammation-after-vaccination/
~https://twitter.com/FreedomIsrael
/status/1382482507938029577
~https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YK0JR_lFy88Zu3rcC3L5NvL_Xr3ib6zY/view
~https://twitter.com/lifebiomedguru/status/1382134062031192072
~https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/cdc-vaers-reporting-vaers-website-does-covid-vaccine-cause-miscarriages-vaers-database-fact-check-vaers-reports-death-miscarriage-doesnt-mean-covid/65-c0a96de2-b86b-4479-a21f-4b6a453d88ac
~https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1382071376060764160
~https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1380965736471015429
~https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1382099831175405569/pu/vid/640×480/mRyQtxcyMme7dlir.mp4?tag=12
~https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1382099831175405569/pu/vid/640x480/mRyQtxcyMme7dlir.mp4?tag=12
~https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/06/government-models-warning-third-wave-based-flawed-figures-telegraph/
~https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1380912674314321930

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…Thank you teacher, friend…peace!!..

…Twitter…pfft! Someone’s non-referenced opinion…

Much variety of thinking in the comments. I’m glad that I was able to obtain both vaccinations.
On COVID observations, I’d like to hear again from @Aleph_Null, whose views I respect. He last posted on March 17, and I’m wondering if he’ll see this.

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Do you dispute the scientific findings in the article about pathogenic priming?

Actually T_H_E posted quite a few sources, not simply twitter. It is interesting to see the progressives on this site swallow the mainstream narrative whole regarding the COVID vaccine, without an attempt to follow the money to see who may be benefitting from the censorship of rational views that do call that narrative into question.

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That is elite sales tactics. All you up and coming capitalists take note.

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Way to not even begin to do your job as a citizen of the Universe! Amazing fail.

DELVE DEEPER.

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Those who dare call themselves progressives here need to check their credentials. What exactly are y’all endeavoring to advance/progress?

If you can’t answer that in detail, something is most definitely rotten in Denmark.

the search term where I found a lot of papers on that phenomenon is antibody dependent enhancement. Its a very real danger.

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Thank you for these links! I can’t believe I just watched Tucker Carlson and agreed with 98% of what he said. Yikes. Now if you could just tone down the righteous indignation and patiently wait for those with differing views to become educated, I think that would enrich the debate.

One indirect benefit from all this is the research into alternative or fusion methods for better health during a pandemic. I’m happy to say, the use of polyphenols for me has been beneficial. Thanks to Zed for his information on this, that I adapted for my own use. Scientifically based but anecdotal in reporting benefits.

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I think the number of those with blood clots who do take the “vaccine” and those with blood clots who do not but get Covid will converge at a later date. I guess we’ll see.

post deleted by author…better thinking prevails.

There is a very good Italian documentary on the subject matter referenced in the Da Vinci Code.

Well, there really wasn’t much to the “scientific findings” of the paper. Dr. Lyons-Weiller just did a search for potentially homologous regions of COVID and important areas coding for proteins needed by the immune system which then might relate to ADE related autoimmune disease concerns (ADE = Antibody Dependent Enhancement - the preferred name to the biased “pathopgenic priming”). Since the degree of homology required to get into his list was quite low, that type of result would be true for just about any virus you can name so there’s not much new in the paper - and the rest of the article was just the author’s view of the scientific implications of that.

I object to the idea that people should avoid any of the main COVID19 vaccines because of this type of result. ADE is a real and important phenomena to track and watch out for. When @zed raised this topic last year I found a good unbiased review of the topic at ~https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5 - it’s a bit dense but does a nice job of breaking down the real issues in case you are interested. The anti vaccine folks seem to pretend that the vaccine producers did not take this into account in their formulations (not true) and indeed they and multiple labs continue to study the topic and there have been all kinds of experiments in animals (and in conjunction with COVID19 and the new vaccines - not just those old ones on the failed SARS and MERS vaccines that are pretty irrelevant at this point). In fact, the FDA is requiring information relevant to ADE from the vaccine makers and the Pfizer report on the topic is due in May so we’ll have to keep a lookout for that.

As far as I can tell, this problem is at least as likely to happen in the bodies of the unvaccinated as in the vaccinated (obviously papers that focus on the problem wrt vaccines need to demonstrate the opposite for the issue to dissuade anyone from being vaccinated) and certainly coronavirus variants that may cause autoimmune responses could also happen by the evolution of the virus in an animal that crosses over to humans in the future.

(Disclosure: 15 years ago I served on an NIH grant review committee and evaluated cancer related bioinformatics work of Dr. Lyons-Weiler. I read several of his bioinformatics publications at the time and still have a favorable view of his bioinformatics work based on the excellent work he was doing in the cancer domain at that time).

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I am partially basing my reservations on unsubstantiated rumors Ive heard out of China that there were a large number of animals that died from some unknown disease during vaccine research in 2019. You might recall that the government wanted to build a large waste incinerator in Wuhan around six months before the emergence of coronavirus but the populace of Wuhan strenuously rejected the idea and took to the streets. Pitched battles were fought between the demonstrators and police over this incinerator. It was documented surprisingly well on Twitter.

I cant help but admit that I worry that there might have been some connection between all these elements and the coronavirus outbreak which began in November and December in the same city.

Since there are known risks, an important variable is how well risks are assessed before vaccination and not just reported when they occur? Why is there a higher incidence of side effects in women? Or, do women report events more reliably than men? There is always going to be a selected dominate practice, historically it hasn’t always been right.

The reason there is a reporting or surveillance system is to determine consequences.