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'Does Anyone Think That's a Bad Thing?': Leaked Zuckerberg Audio Suggests Warren Vow to Break Up Facebook Has Tech Giant Spooked

Very true!


Also, let’s not forget that Warren voted for the NDAA in 2018, a very unpatriotic vote…

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gand –

Agree with you –
and I wouldn’t argue with a Sanders/Warren ticket, though I don’t have the
confidence in her so many do.

Just as PS on the comment you replied to – we not only need to TAX the RICH …
we need to STOP taxing the poor. That is that we need a higher level of exemptions
from any taxes whatsoever. Granted, they loved doing that because it was a larger base
for taxing which they took advantage of. Raising even pennies from the poor is worthwhile
for them.

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No. 2: is she that stupid?

I a while ago we arrived at the point where “All’s fair” in politics, whether it truly is or not.
I’m not putting Warren down at all.
If she wants the grassroots, heart of the party, she has to attach to most of what Bernie supports.
A splitting up of the grassroots voters could be a bad thing though, or cause doubt for the voters, or both.

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Beside having a massively “urge-to-slap” face Zuckerberg infamously called the people who signed up for his FB pathetic suckers (not exact, just remembed the gist) which tells you a lot about his real attitude and what an all-time jerk he is. And now he is about to launch his own currency. Cripe.
And yes, break them up. Hell disband them and turn them into a public utility, as that is the mode they are operating as anyway and the niche they’ve wangled for themselves.

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“…and the band is going home, it’s raining hammers, it’s raining nails / and he knows there’s nothing left for him down here. / And it’s time, time time…” - Tom Waits

October 5th marks one year off of Facebook for me. It’s time, folks. Do it for the revolution.

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Yes, I agree wholeheartedly but in lieu of that if it doesn’t happen I will be more than happy to settle for breaking up Big Tech. And seeing the Zuck squirm would be sweet. (And yes I do use FB… to keep in touch with all the nieces and nephews and friend scattered across the globe.it works for me because that’s what the fam uses and is not interested in switching to other things… )

“we care about our country”

Stop it! Just stop it! You don’t give a damn about the country or you wouldn’t have published all the fake stories that got Phat Boy elected. You wouldn’t have given away all those people’s personal data. You wouldn’t refuse to take down false and inflammatory posts. You wouldn’t run your company the way you do.

If you get busted up, you have no one to blame but yourself. And there are still antitrust laws on the books against monopolies and their practice of using their power in one area to screw people over in another.

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It’s interesting. I’ve had to go to right wing sites too to try to see what’s going on (in my case, with the whole Trump/Ukraine/Biden/Crowdstrike issue).

What I want to know is, what about big telecom? It’s ATT, Verizon & Comcast who have taken Net Neutrality away from us:

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Warren was hired by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to do the bidding of the Too-Big-To-Fail (TBTF) banks.

The situation was analogous to the deregulation of Wall Street that Bill Clinton did with Robert Rubin in 2000. The negative effects of the deregulation were not felt until the George W. Bush administration but the legislation was passed by a Democratic administration.

The same thing happened with the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) to report into the private “Federal Reserve” owned by the same TBTF banks it purports to regulate. Pure regulatory capture. The Fed waited until the Trump administration to cut the legs out from under the CFPB by cutting its budget.

There were complaints this could happen when Warren was creating the CFPB but she ignored them and listened to the Citibank overlords who dictated Obama’s economic team. Warren was also the head of the TARP oversight committee which made sure no bankers were fired and they all got their bonuses.

Bad legislative track record makes me not trust her involvement in major regulation of social media.

In general social media has been a great way for intelligent Americans to bypass TV pundits and the mainstream media biases.

The worst thing that could happen is Warren promises to break up “Big Tech” and then turns around and regulates free speech on social media resulting in more censorship under the banner of “getting rid of fake news”.

She was born and raised Republican who generally look for a story they can all stick to.

In other words, bringing back George Orwell’s 1984.

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No. Absolutely not. We need to break them up. Government in control of the net is as dangerous as anything else. Our focus has to be on decentralized platforms. Facebook & Twitter ==> the Fediverse (Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla, etc.) We need multiple platforms that can communicate, that are easy to install on one’s own server, and which allow you to download you data and easily more it to another server if that’s what you want to do.

For services more broadly, you can start by to these radical servers.

Check in particular FramaSoft’s De-Googlify the Internet.

This is what is threatened by our loss of Net Neutrality. They will prioritize certain services (whether Facebook’s and Google’s or the nationalized version thereof) at the expense of those from small providers. And the wonder of the internet is, it’s easy for anyone to be a provider (as long as their capacity to broadcast on the net is not throttled).

PS. Also relevant comment by WantBernieInstead.

Yes, exactly. Please see my response to WebWalk.

The same thing happened with the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) to report into the private “Federal Reserve” owned by the same TBTF banks it purports to regulate. Pure regulatory capture. The Fed waited until the Trump administration to cut the legs out from under the CFPB by cutting its budget.

There were complaints this could happen when Warren was creating the CFPB but she ignored them and listened to the Citibank overlords who dictated Obama’s economic team. Warren was also the head of the TARP oversight committee which made sure no bankers were fired and they all got their bonuses.

If you have more I can read on this, I’d appreciate it. I need some ammunition in talking to Warren supporters.

We are in trouble when Sanders and Warren are competing with Trump for totalitarian diktats most totally barren of substance as well as constitutionality.

Give some examples and demonstrate that they are “barren of substance”. Throw out a few issues, show how authoritarian they are (as if the continuous move to the right since Reagan has strengthened democracy and made the system less corrupt), and then demonstrate how barren of substance they are. Also, give some ideas of what you think would be better. Oh, and use your brain. Like, I don’t need Hayek and Rothbard bumper stickers. If I want mindless and a-historic silliness, I know where to find Reason magazine or some other rag that billionaires fund to fill people’s heads with nonsense. I seem to remember, when I tortured myself by going into economics, my professors talking about the evils of monopolies and oligopolies, and they weren’t teaching us Das Capital, but maybe in some magical universe they aren’t an issue. Thanks.

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Warren: “Capitalist to my bones” Warren to split Progressive vote and allow Biden to Win the Primary

If she truly supports the MFA/GND/FC agenda, why run against Sanders and split the vote?

  • Obama packed his entire economic team with Wall Street bankers and their henchmen (Hillary Clinton) who in turn tapped Warren to oversee that the TARP funding got to the Too-Big-To-Fail (TBTF) banks without strings attached and later centralize financial oversight under a new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that reports to the private Federal Reserve, owned by the same TBTF banks who caused the crisis. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8190 (see attachments for Citibank recommendations of Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton) https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3476 (see Hillary Clinton aide’s recommendation of Elizabeth Warren before Obama’s announcement 9/17/2010) https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2010/09/17/president-obama-names-elizabeth-warren-assistant-president-and-special-a

  • After Sanders 2016 bid propelled the “Our Revolution” agenda to be favored by a high majority of Americans, Warren adopts similar if not exactly the same agenda items in her bid for President in 2020. No reason given for why Warren is running against Sanders in 2020 with policies so similar and why Warren could not find a difference significant enough to endorse Sanders over Clinton in 2016.

Warren gives standing ovation to Trump - America will never be Socialist https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1094791599685582849?lang=en

Warren criticized about Trump defense/offense budget vote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLLvXCeHogM

Warren’s Billionaire donors https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1101532315770068993

Tim Black - Warren massive proposals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cer6UP-8uFw

Warren is bending to Insiders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96MpnYv56E

Warren buttering up Democratic Elites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8m9T9ZBr4

Healthcare executive daughter helps rig WFP endorsement https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM/status/1176265744868417538

she is very different in a conversation than when she’s on the stump https://medium.com/@SuperSovietBox/elizabeth-warren-is-not-bernie-with-a-vagina-457f0a93248

The Hill - Warren circles back to Clinton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds1u_zTkHuM

Warren OK with Biden corruption https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQLmz-YP49U

Warren Punking America on Medicare For All https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HwhTWO1-tw

Why Warren’s technocratic approach will fail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkzRURcRbkY

Is Warren honest? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQhb1-JbGE

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Why didn’t the Winklevoss Bros create their own Facebook when there was still a chance?

Boycotts can be difficult, I understand. And Facebook is baited with your own friends and relatives. Lucky for me, I have their telephone numbers and their e-mail addresses. I don’t know how we can have a revolution if we can’t let go of something as trivial as Facebook.

Ok, I had seen a couple of those, but this is much more than I had explored. I thank you for all the work. I’ll read it all.

(Hm, actually I’m finding this link broken:
https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1101532315770068993

If you have the right one, I’ll look at that, too!)

Webwalk I like lots of what you have to say here because PUBLIC OWNERSHIP is the issue. However, fighting Capital appears to TAKE an equal amount of Capital unless and until Citizens United is eviscerated, decapitated and decaying in the ground.

Zuckerberg likes to put out a benign face to the public but when you hear what is going on behind the facade…it is ugly.