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Donald Trump Never Had A Mandate From America


#1

Donald Trump Never Had A Mandate From America

John Nichols

Fifty-four percent of Americans rejected Trump's Republican candidacy on Nov. 8, 2016.

"The only way that Trump made it to the presidency was because the United States allows an Electoral College, which was created more than 230 years ago to limit popular democracy, to overrule the popular vote."

#2

Trump’s ‘mandate’ ostensibly from the base supporting him, is to put the pedal to the metal and drive the system into the ground, grind it up, rub the face of the majority of people in the world with his whiny schizophrenic TV ad twits so that full blown fascism (the paymasters) can continue to deny that the predatory model has hit the wall and its true colors are beiginning to bleed through the veil.

No amount of media, money, or even military violence can reverse the exposure. People are proving willing to reprioritize lives to fight the extreme narrowing based on denial that those committed to the predation DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING beyond the Bannon-style double-down and double-cross wedded to a mafia model of incompetent, sclerotic violence. it can bash its way through the initial weaknesses of a populous uninformed due to devious secrecy, the floundering of a dazed and stumbling surprise - beyond that the bullshit methods are toast.

Think headway was made in mid-term elections? People are still assimilating the full scope of the breakdown and all of us are getting our ducks in a row to set an unbreakable base of DIVERSITY, civility, organization, mutual respect and unassailable documentation, argumentation and a living wave of regeneration that is SUSTAINABLE.


#3
  1. The campaigns would have been run quite differently if the election was only based on the number of votes. So those popular vote numbers are a moot point.

  2. If the DNC had had a fair and open leadership race, Saunders would likely have taken the nomination and very likely would have won the presidency.

  3. How many American presidents won with less than 50% of the votes?
    Quora lists 18. JFK won with less than 50% in 1960. Bill Clinton, in 1992, won with 43% - against even-more-to-the-right Bush Sr. and Perot, so he had even less of a mandate than Trump does.


#4

We must understand this:

In Trumplandia, Trump is the smartest one in the room.


#5

Nor did Clinton ever have a mandate from America.

Claims and counterclaims regarding mandates are traditionally party hack politics and when it comes to party hacks, Nichols is a veteran. Of course Trump can’t claim a mandate, but had Hilary won with her meager 28.43% of those eligible to vote, the Democrats would have been on equally thin ice to claim any sort of a mandate.

As long as the largest voting bloc continues to be those who did not vote for any presidential candidate, it’s pointless to bring up the subject of mandates or lack thereof. Lastly, as we know too well, opinion polls don’t automatically translate into votes.


#6

This is somewhat misleading in that it is not 54% of Americans but 54% of American voters. When you include Americans who could vote but didn’t - you see a vastly lower number of Americans giving Trump their approval. By not voting - did they approve of Trump or disapprove? I would suggest his support of the American public as a whole (voters and non-voters) is much, much lower.


#7

The National Popular Vote bill is 61% of the way to guaranteeing the majority of Electoral College votes and the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country, by changing state winner-take-all laws (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but later enacted by 48 states), without changing anything in the Constitution, using the built-in method that the Constitution provides for states to make changes.

All voters would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where they live.
Candidates, as in other elections, would allocate their time, money, polling, organizing, and ad buys roughly in proportion to the population

Every vote, everywhere, for every candidate, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election.
No more distorting, crude, and divisive and red and blue state maps of predictable outcomes, that don’t represent any minority party voters within each state.
No more handful of ‘battleground’ states (where the two major political parties happen to have similar levels of support) where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 38+ predictable states that have just been ‘spectators’ and ignored after the conventions.

The bill would take effect when enacted by states with a majority of the electoral votes—270 of 538.
All of the presidential electors from the enacting states will be supporters of the presidential candidate receiving the most popular votes among all 50 states (and DC)—thereby guaranteeing that candidate with an Electoral College majority.

In 2017, the bill has passed the New Mexico Senate and Oregon House.
The bill was approved in 2016 by a unanimous bipartisan House committee vote in both Georgia (16 electoral votes) and Missouri (10).
Since 2006, the bill has passed 35 state legislative chambers in 23 rural, small, medium, large, red, blue, and purple states with 261 electoral votes.
The bill has been enacted by 11 small, medium, and large jurisdictions with 165 electoral votes – 61% of the way to guaranteeing the presidency to the candidate with the most popular votes in the country

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#8

Mandate? Vision? Future? There isn’t any. James Petras can say it much better than I can. Go to James Petras website and read his compare and contrast with the US v. China and you’ll get the picture. The US is wasting valuable time and amazing amounts infinite resources to, basically, destroy their perceived enemies. It’s truly stunning the differences. Yeah China has state control over it’s citizens and there’s no real freedom, as ours is shrinking everyday, but their vision, their concern for renewable energy, their education, all help their citizens. Here the average worker is one paycheck away from disaster. All the multinationals stash money offshore and by that our infrastructure crumbles and there’s NO addressing the growing toxic crisis Earth is suffering because of the greedy industrialists. Please help so the younger generations have somewhere to call home, I have no children, really, or this overheated toxic soup will consume us all.


#9

It’s good to see my home state, NM, getting in a few punches. As a state with only 5 electoral votes we could use a break. I would like to see this archaic form of securing votes in a most undemocratic way go down the memory holes of history.


#10

The small states and the Old Confederate States will fight that tooth and nail. Especially so, if fossil fuels go the way of the dinosaurs.
Did you know that a 9.2% overlap margin in voting by Democrats is needed in Virginia for them to capture control of The House of Delegates?
Rigged and gerrymandered doesn’t really do justice to this glaring injustice.


#11

I guess it depends on who you ask. If you ask the question to Clinton supporters I think they would say it does approve of Trump, though they would probably also say that to people who ended up voting for Bernie or Stein…or anyone not Clinton.


#12

In Trumplandia Trump is the Only one in the room… that matters.


#13

Of course it is the grossest form of heresy but the communist system isn’t all bad for it does treat the poor better than we do but maybe that is because they are the majority. It looks to me as if we will soon be relying on the tender mercies of capitalism. Prolly be like dating Ted Bundy.