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ESPN Does Not Want You To Know How Great Single Payer Health Care Is


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ESPN Does Not Want You To Know How Great Single Payer Health Care Is

Jon Queally, staff writer

ESPN, the most dominant sports-only cable channel in the United States is apparently not interested in hearing about progressive politics, even if it tries to sneak itself in during post-game coverage of a star-studded basketball event that aired on Friday night.


#2

Canadians have to wait longer than Americans to receive care

See how this works? Huffpo still manages to muddy the waters by making such a ridiculous summarizing point that ignores the fact that the millions who don't have any affordable access to care in the US either wait hoping upon hope that their sickness gets better with no care, or they head to the emergency room and wait 6 hours to get help and will absolutely be billed exorbitant fees for those services and ultimately pursued by debt collectors.


#3

This is why I don't (ever) watch corporate news, commentary, and sports that originate in the United States. It pains me to watch clips like this, but I have to, in order to comment.

People like Sage Steele do the grunt work for the cowardly bastards behind the scenes in America's corporations. You know, the ones that control "the message".

When Sage is in her late 40s--coming to her soon by the way--I hope she gets the usual corporate treatment: Tossed out on her ass because she's "too old", useless.

Then she'll learn that all that corporate dirty work she smugly did for her employer only served to harm her in the long-run.

I hope this is the case for her. I really do.


#4

I've always been a big fan of Arcade Fire, and now I'm even a bigger fan. Thank you Win Butler.


#5

I guess that goes to show you what kind of democracy we have in the U.S.


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"Canadians have to wait longer than Americans to receive care." I wish people would put a stop to this distortion. Waiting times are longer in Canada than they used to be just a few years ago - almost solely because governments have been defunding health care in preparation for US-style privatisation - but they are not longer than waiting times for uninsured or underinsured Americans, and across the board health care outcomes are still better in Canada than the US, and for a lower cost. For example, the infant mortality rate is lower in Canada than in the US (it's lower in Cuba than the US, but I digress).


#9

The people you speak of have a higher sense of selfishness when it concerns human riff-raff getting free stuff.

The weakest links among us would rather die--and take the rest of us with them--than give the takers anything free.


#10

and a bit of trivia, Canada has more than 35 million people, not just 31.5M... operating on olde demographiques?


#11

Yes, and if it's urgent, iirc, it's the same as here. I don't know about you, but if I'm sick, or broken, but it's not urgent, I have to wait to get in to see a doctor, too. I heard somewhere that the professions keeps the number of docs lower than it has to be to keep profits up.


#12

Thanks, Mr. Butler!


#13

While all healthcare systems in the developed world are light years ahead of the U.S. system, universal healthcare is still under considerable attack by corporate America. While Canada's recently departed right wing government did their best to create a "two tier system", the right wing government was very careful to never suggest that universal healthcare would be replaced with a sinister system like that of the U.S. Just to suggest that Canadians should emulate their American counterparts, would be political suicide. therefore it is of the utmost importance of the corporate media in the U.S. to never allow an open discussion of universal healthcare systems because it would become painfully obvious that the healthcare companies are responsible for the current mess in the U.S.


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Yes. Here where I live just south of the Canadian border I had to wait almost 6 months to be seen.


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What we need is a system where everyone is covered and there is no rationing of health care so there is no waiting. You can't expect people in the US to give up their present system of immediate health care for a system with waiting. The Canadian system will not make it as a model here. This discussion about single-payer went on when the Affordable Care Act was proposed. Nobody came up with a good model at that time and it unlikely anyone will now. If Obamacare fails due to excessive costs that would be a good time to take up single-payer again. The goal remains universal health care coverage whether it a single-paper system or some other system. In the mean time, the focus should be on reducing costs. Defensive medicine is a big driver of costs, but patients should have the right to sue for malpractice. What can be done about that? The fee for service system adds a lot to costs. Paying for outcome rather than every service performed is one way to reduce costs. Right now costs are being reduced by substituting nurses and physician assistants for physicians. Is that a good thing? Patients now have to leave the hospital much sooner than in the past to reduce costs supposedly without affecting outcome. Is that a good thing? Is there too much emphasis on reducing risks for disease rather than treating the actual diseases? Can costs be reduced by changing the model? There is a lot that can be done. There is no need to wait for single-payer to make important changes.


#16

Indeed. When I finally got to see my primary care one of the first things I had to hear was take this or that drug--No, thanks was my response but ginger works just fine.


#18

Yes, but they have a serious mental illness.


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Yes. The fraser Institute, that right wing think tank here in Canada that advocates the US Model even came out and said in response to a question that when they considered respective waiting lists they did not measure Americans who could never get care because it would distort the numbers.


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just say no. :slightly_smiling: I avoid doctors. they are trained to manage symptoms--not support the body's natural ability to heal. they really just don't know much of anything except following protocols and dispensing meds that cause a host of other problems. and that is most likely a significant reason why we see chronic illness on the rise. that and Monsanto.
ginger and tumeric work great. :slightly_smiling:


#21

Very true. The same classic strategy is used everywhere. Deliberately de-fund and monkeywrench vital government public services until they start to fall apart - then turn around and say "See? Big socialistic government can't do anything right! Only Free Markets can!


#22

Curious. Maybe I'm dating myself, but the most famous Canadian/Torontan rock band that comes to my mind is Rush - which is known for promoting Ayn-Randish so-called "libertarianism" in some of their songs. What do they think of Canadian health syatem? I suspect that even they have always supported it....