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Even as Major Politicians Continue to Drag Feet, Poll Shows Majority in US Want Bold Climate Action and End of Fossil Fuels

Originally published at http://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/23/even-major-politicians-continue-drag-feet-poll-shows-majority-us-want-bold-climate

…and there will be no questions in the first "debate* " about Climate.
Just heard that on the radio

  • these are not debates. They are press conferences. They will not be debates again until the League of Women Voters is in control of them again
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“Even as Major Politicians Continue to Drag Feet, Poll Shows Majority in US Want Bold Climate Action and End of Fossil Fuels”

So why aren’t they voting for Bernie! Oh, that’s right, he’s a socialist who they agree with, oh, but he’s a socialist. Talk about looney toons.

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In ten years, when people are moving away from the Atlantic and Gulf coasts in droves because of sea rise, storms, and flooding, we will recognize 2020 as the last time we had a chance to stem the tide of global warming.
While we of course know the Republican plan, live it up, let the good times roll until the rapture, the Democratic Party plan seems to be yeah, we know it’s a problem, but our biggest donors already have their bunkers ready, and don’t really want to rock the boat.
Enter status quo Joe. Not only will global warming be placed on the back burner (pun intended) but all other major legislative goals shall be watered down or forgotten about altogether. The democrats won’t reform the SCOTUS and won’t eliminate the filibuster. They can then safely introduce progressive legislation gradually, then scream bloody murder at those big Republican meanies that stop it from moving forward in the senate.
What we will see from 2021 to 2024 is the Obama administration 2.0. Do the minimum, claim the other side won’t let you innovate or legislate, and then try to “hope and change” global warming away.

With two national parties colluding for benefit of the same Elites
you aren’t going to get questions which truly reflect the interests of the people –

At best, both candidates should be put into separate rooms and let each speak to
their vision of America –

The only questions asked should come from the public – not a stacked audience –
and nothing pre-arranged –

There should be a website every American can go to and submit support for issue
categories – and then specific questions on those issues –

But first we need to begin to support news organizations which truly support the
interests of the public and NOT advertisers –

Big Pharma must be mentioned in that where it seems they are running ads in such
quantity that it can only be that they are trying to stop news networks from investigating
their pricing and the side effects of their drugs – and vaccines.

We need to take solutions into our own hands in regard to re-engineering
our cars to ELECTRIC –

and in regard to supporting alternative press – a free press paid for (even with licenses
if necessary) by the public. There are now sufficient independent news organizations and
individuals in our press trying to actually tell the truth to the public that they could begin to
unite in a people’s press organization which we could all fund.

Same for tributes to Ruth Bader Ginsburg –
DEDICATE A CAMPAIGN FOR THE ERA TO HER and let’s get it funded by the people –
$5 from every woman in America should do it – but of course, giving as much as you can.

Same for John Lewis –
DEDICATE A CAMPAIGN FOR ENDING GERRYMANDERING – AND ENSURING THAT
AA’S AND PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AS ‘WHITES’ –
AND IMO THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO MOVE OUR ELECTIONS ALL TO USPS.
I TRUST MY POSTAL DELIVERY WORKER AND WHAT THE USPS HAS REPRESENTED
ALWAYS –
BALLOTS SENT TO HOME ADDRESSES – BALLOTS TO BE PICKED UP BY HOMELESS -
BALLOTS DELIVERED TO PRISONS – ALL WITH BAR CODES/TRACKING NUMBERS.
TO BE RETURNED BY MAIL OR IN PERSON AT THE POST OFFICE.

That means protecting all of our Post Offices, town by town, city by city – state by state.
All uniting together –

And I guess I should go now and read Ralph Nader’s article questioning why we continue
to support corporations – !!

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The ones that were registered democrats did. The socialists that aren’t registered democrats aren’t allowed in the private primary system. Open primaries would have added 20-30% more votes to Sanders, easily giving him the nomination. It would have also given the democrats an easy win in November as independents would have flocked to the polls to vote for Bernie.
But now, matters are worse. Bernie and his ideology were again chased away, and Biden cannot seem to excite die hard democrats, let alone the now disappointed and once again disenfranchised independents.
Bernie was kidding himself thinking that he could (would) be permitted to win the democrats private lottery. And now an election that democrats could have won by 20-25% is still within the margin of error.

The astonishing ignorance and rule of money, not ideas, in our corrupt politics that dictates the future for billions, must be smashed, and that means both establishment R’s (obviously) and trump, and also D’s (not quite as obvious but malignant and serving much the same interests and corrupt rot as R’s.

My focus is always more on our Mother Earth, GAIA, The Natural World, environmental protection, planetary health, The Wild and animal species becoming extinct and/or abused by human ignorance and/or depraved indifference for their lives and places in the Web of Life we all must care-for whether we recognize that fact or not.

Here is a heartening example of stewardship and rebirth of spirit in action.

~https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/23/clam-gardens-first-nations-beaches-pacific-northwest

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Too many people have deluded themselves into believing that the problem is within the system, and can therefor be fixed. What they fail to realize is the problem IS THE SYSTEM, and it must be torn down.
Until that eventuality is realized, we will continue to flounder, and the planet will continue to die

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Yah, here in NY I was registered as an independent for decades and only re-registered as a D recently in order to vote for Bernie in the primary. Damn Clintons and the DNC were behind blocking I from voting in the NY primaries.

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Same problem here in PA. It’s difficult to switch back and forth (and a pain in the ass)
Lets face it, the two parties invented the primary system for a reason. To maintain their two parties as the only parties. And the biggest plus for each is that by making each candidate literally run two campaigns in the same year, only the rich may apply.

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Do a majority of Americans have the stomach for the enormous drop in consumption necessary to stop/reverse global warming? I doubt it.

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As Americans pressure politicians regarding the destruction of our living planet, which probably won’t result in any change, they can do things individually such as:

  • Stop using internal combustion toys such as leaf blowers, jet skis, weed whackers, pleasure boats, ATVs, ORVs, RVs, etc.
  • Ride a non-motorized bicycle instead of driving a car.
  • Don’t go on trips using vehicles or airplanes.
  • Avoid consumer capitalism.
  • Have fewer or no children.
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Also, support local farmers. Big Ag/factory farming is at the heart of many ills, global warming is but one.

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I’m not against the things you list here, but are they reasonable?
1 I agree, we don’t need all the toys.
2 It’s hard getting $200 dollars worth of groceries in a bike basket. Some people commute from country homes.
3 You can’t avoid consumer capitalism, it’s part of the fabric, baked into the pie.
4Family planning could get a lot harder anti abortion moves, and loss of contraception.

It might be fun to watch the system broken down like onion layers. Seeing the garbage holding each layer together as it is stripped away…
It will take a generation to fix us.

Hey, McFly. The majority of Americans want Medicare for All, public funding of college, and gun safety laws.

Who the fvck cares what the American people want.

Of course Biden should come out in favor of banning fracking, and certainly outlawing all fossil extraction on federal lands (not such a big issue in PA). In fact he should have been saying it all along, and educating people all along, so it wouldn’t be a problem. But he would have to be a different candidate, in a different party, to do that. He would have to not have dementia and not be a right wing fossil fuel addict (politically), for just 2 examples.

A majority in PA support a ban on fracking. But polling is not so simple. Most of them will vote for Joe anyway, and almost none will switch either way just based on fracking; it’s not that important an issue to most people. There may be a few hovering at the edge still deciding which mentally unfit rapist to vote for, and most of them who care about it will care because of money they get from fracking, either from a job in the industry or leases on their land. Thus about the only (potential) demographic swayable by this issue will be pro-fracking. This demographic is important to Joe because the Democrats have gone for imaginary people out of the alleged middle rather than actual people who would vote for them if they were progressive. Again, it would take a different candidate–Bernie, for example–to be progressive and appeal to people on the left.