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#ExxonKnew Escalates as NY Attorney General Subpoenas Oil Giant Over Climate Crimes


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#2

The behavior of the tobacco industry was inexcusable but their victims at lest had the freedom to choose between the risk of smoking and the certainty that not smoking was safe. The fossil fuel industry can make no such claims, Their psychotic depraved indifference to the future of the planet and the plight of potential generations to come is a crime greater than all previous crimes combined. There can be no justification for these actions for they are beyond the reason of man.


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The skeptical cynic that I am, I sincerely doubt that there will be any substantive or worthwhile outcome from the proceedings. The only way that Exxon, BP, Shell, Chevron, etc. will ever change is if that change brings them profits or that these criminals are individually as well as severally made to pay for all damages thus rendering them and their companies unprofitable and debt ridden. If anyone eventually gets prison time, it will be short and they will again be out on the street seeking to do more evil. Few, if any of these narcissistic sociopaths are "rehabilitated." But, at least what Schneiderman is doing is a good start. (One of his predecessors, Eliot Spitzer went after the banksters and unscrupulous investment firms with success...too bad that he shamed himself with his personal missteps.)


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If Exxon is partly responsible for crop losses for thousands of farmers, if they're partly responsible for over 5 million acres of Alaskan tundra burning up, if they're partly responsible for the cod disappearing from the Gulf of Maine, if they're partly responsible for 1200 people drowning in Hurricane Katrina, and if they knew beforehand that their malevolent neglect would cause these damages to their neighbors, then they're in legal jeopardy. They're responsible for damages that they deliberately caused in search of their own profits. They could easily have gone the solar and biofuel route but they couldn't let that last dollar of profit go.

Credit card fraud for fun and profit is a crime under U.S. law. You benefit, the banks are big enough to lose a little, no harm no foul? I don't think the judge will agree. So is any other type of robbing of your neighbors for your own profit, even when you're part of a corporation.


#5

Wow... they're being subpoenaed?... Yes, that's a start. I also am waiting with baited breath to see what the results of that will be... Very interesting times we live in... and it's only just begun....


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How convenient for the banksters and unscrupulous investment firms that Spitzer shamed himself....it couldn't be, could it, that his missteps were down a path that someone was paid to lead him? Schneiderman had better watch his back, and should be squeaky clean as he's going after big dogs who, I suspect, will do anything to derail him.


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I'm pretty sure you could go down the laundry list of usual suspects and find that those corporations/political organizations, paranoid of losing their wealth and power, were hiding ALL KINDS of important information from the public -- much of it extremely damaging to the environment and to people's lives -- that would have led to large legal settlements and/or bankruptcy -- or worse.

If only we knew .... what was decided in every corporate and political boardroom .... This is something we used to discuss as teenagers. Still, to this day, everything remains secretive.

Catch 22.

There should have been legislated transparency and accountability decades ago. With the current corrupt systems -- we're lucky the world's still here.


#8

It bears repeating. Under the new TPP information such as this, that being internal documents show that Exxon knew about climate change and the Oil industry role in it all along , can be protected under various copyright laws and make the publishing of said information a violation of said act and allo the firm to sue persons linking to the documents.


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Bit off-topic - but we sorely need US gasoline retail process to get back up to those shown on this dated photo - and keep going up from there...

But then, it is the low crude process which are probably the biggest factor in cancelling the pipeline - which is leading to higher gasoline consumption (big SUV sales have never been higher) - which will in a few years, probably lead to the pipeline's resurrection.

The lesson is that it will be impossible to keep the oil in the ground when the is such a love for consuming the stuff.


#10

It is good that such occurrences of organized corporate crimes are exposed and prosecuted. Still, the science has been publicly available at least since 1973 with publication of "Limits to Growth."


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The CEO's of these oil, banking big pharma are all graduates of high power elites schools where they learn how to fleece the public and government entities by hook and by crook. They take home outrageous salaries and benefits, their task is to show a profit no matter the cost to others. Big oil has for decades mislead people and have forced people to depend on automobiles bribing city, state and federal agencies to spend money on roads and highways and kill public transportation systems.


#12

"Hat's Off" to McKibben for his protesting, civil disobedience, and 'calling-out' of Exxon --- which is called-out as a 'Private Empire' in Steve Coll's fabulously revealing book, "Private Empire: ExxonMobil and American Power".

While Coll calls Exxon a Private Empire, it's more than that. It's one of the charter members of the much larger Disguised Global Crony-Capitalist EMPIRE that has captured and now fully "Occupies" our former country as its nominal global HQ, and Vichy facade of supposed democracy. ["America's Deadliest Export: Democracy" as William Blum's book documents]

As I wrote at CD when this story first broke several weeks ago:

It's great news that Bernie is focusing on this ---- because WHEN he really
understands that EMPIRE is the underLYING factor behind Exxon and the
USG, maybe, just maybe, Sanders will 'come-out' publicly, loudly, and
forthright for a Second (and now non-violent) American Revolution against
this total EMPIRE --- and not just a limited "Political Revolution" against what?

Exxon falls within the 'corporate-sector' of this highly-integrated, but well
hidden cancerous, six-sectored; corporate, financial, militarist,
media/propaganda, extra-legal, and most dangerously dual-party
Vichy-political facade of both the neocon 'R' Vichy party and the smoother
lying neoliberal=con 'D' Vichy party of faux-democracy called the U.S., which is
actually just a front for this first truly Disguised Global Crony-Capitalist Empire.

Exxon is clearly a major factor of this DGC-C Empire that Professor Robinson's
book exposes as a key conspirator of the total 'Private/Public Partnership' Empire
of "Global Capitalism and the Crisis of Humanity".

"The U.S. state is a key point of condensation for pressures from dominant
groups around the world to resolve problems of global capitalism and to
secure the legitimacy of the system overall. In this regard, “U.S.”
imperialism refers to the use by transnational elites of the U.S. state
APPARATUS to continue to attempt to expand, defend, and stabilize the
global capitalist system. We are witness less to a “U.S.” imperialism
per se than to a global capitalist imperialism. We face an EMPIRE of
global capital, headquartered, for evident historical reasons, in
Washington."

Robinson 2014 "Global Capitalism and the Crisis of Humanity".
Cambridge University Press.

Of course the revealing book, "The Wikileak Files: The World According to
U.S. Empire" (with introduction by Julian Assange) exposes the same
conclusion on the Public/Government 'face of Empire'.

"The US Department of State is unique among the formal bureaucracies of the
United States. Other agencies aspire to administrate one function or
another, but the State Department represents, and even houses, all major
elements of US national power. It provides cover for the CIA, buildings
for the NSA mass-interception equipment, office space and
communications facilities for the FBI, the military, and other
government agencies, and staff to act as sales agents and political
advisors for the largest US corporations.

As the diplomatic APPARATUS of the United States, the State Department is
directly involved in putting a 'friendly face' on EMPIRE, concealing its
underlying mechanics. Every year, more than $1 billion is budgeted for
“public diplomacy,” a circumlocutory term for outward-facing PROPAGANDA.

Public diplomacy explicitly aims to influence journalists and civil
society, so that they serve as conduits for State Department messaging."
[Caps added for focus on the 'Private/Public nature of this integrated Global
Empire in using and abusing the "U.S. state apparatus" of both 'hard
and soft powers' for the benefit of the ruling-elite TCCs (Transnational
Capitalist Classes) and TNCs (Transnational Corporations).]

"It's not the economy, stupid"

"It's the EMPIRE, stupid"
--- because it is the exact same Empire which causes wars "abroad" and economic tyranny "at home" as Hannah Arendt warned about the Nazi Empire when she said,

"Empire abroad entails tyranny at home"

PS. And as we should remember, the former EXXON CEO, Lee Raymond, who
Dick Cheney invited to his secret 2001 "Energy / War Planning Meetings"
in the White House and allowed him to say to the assembled senior
Pentagon execs and Generals that, "In the past we acquired oil through
market means, but in the future we will need to gain it through
'extra-market' means", might also be something that DOJ should
Supoena, if they want to investigate the real Empire.

PS2. "over here we got out friends from oil, they don't give a shit about how much wilderness they spoil, as long as we keep driving cars they'd let the planet die --- Exxon, Mobil, the Saudis, and Kuwait, if we took out the Middle East the atmosphere can wait"


#13

A guilty verdict and all the fines in the world will never undo he damage to the climate that the oil industry has caused.