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Fear the Hate: If Trump is "Tanking," Why Is He Tied with Clinton in National Poll?



We need Bernie's policies; the Establishment including the Media and the super wealth made sure Hillary won. That includes their heavy slant in the Media to Trump for the Republicans who they believe Hillary will win against. She knows that: her main campaign stance is "not Trump". Too many people are not bold enough to stand up for Bernie. They fold saying but we cannot let Trump win. Thus, from fear, right through the primaries they undercut support for Bernie rather than standing up for the re-strengthening of the middle class and democracy against the Oligarchy.
“We need a president who will vigorously support international cooperation that brings the people of the world closer together, reduces hyper-nationalism and decreases the possibility of war. We also need a president who respects the democratic rights of the people, and who will fight for an economy that protects the interests of working people, not just Wall Street, the drug companies and other powerful special interests.
“We need to fundamentally reject our "free trade" policies and move to fair trade. Americans should not have to compete against workers in low-wage countries who earn pennies an hour. We must defeat the Trans-Pacific Partnership. We must help poor countries develop sustainable economic models.
“We need to end the international scandal in which large corporations and the wealthy avoid paying trillions of dollars in taxes to their national governments.
“We need to create tens of millions of jobs worldwide by combating global climate change and by transforming the world's energy system away from fossil fuels.
“We need international efforts to cut military spending around the globe and address the causes of war: poverty, hatred, hopelessness and ignorance.

Fwd: Article: Bernie Sanders: Democrats Need to Wake Up | OpEdNews


We shouldn't allow this article to bury the "leave" vote as strictly fueled by xenophobia and racism, the preferred MSM spin. If we read Bernie's comment carefully, we should realize that leave sentiment was equally fueled by rejection of EU economic policies and austerity, as with its harshness toward Greece a year ago. The EU should not be sanctified for the plutocrats.


Makes me think more of the angry left is following the neoliberal rush to the right at the democratic platform committee meeting, especially on the TPP, which Trump will hammer her with until the end of time.


This is why the Sanders supporters who are #NeverHillary need to stand tough against Clinton and keep vowing to leave the Democratic Party for Jill Stein and the Greens in November. We can defeat Hillary and take the party over if Hillary loses. I'm hoping she loses by the margin that the Greens get. It would be a clear message that the left will not be cowed into submission. I am outraged and offended no end by the Clinton campaign attitude of "resistance is futile, you must assimilate to the Borg" towards us. We reject your arrogant, elitist demands and will watch you go down in flames instead. Just watch us. #NeverHillary.


While Clinton has the clear support of large demographics, she has not been able to galvanize those who remain skeptical over her policies and record.

Gee, I wonder why?


Re: Presidential Campaign 2016

Hey DNC,

You don't seem to have grasped this, but Hillary Clinton is a TERRIBLE CANDIDATE. Really, truly, historically awful. A phenomenally, astonishingly, bad candidate for President.


The Real World


To: webwalk
Re: Presidential Campaign 2016

Hey Real World,

You don't seem to have grasped this, but Hillary Clinton is going to be rammed down your throat, like it or not, by a ruthless trans-national oligarchy. We've got the banks, Wall Street, the MIC and surveillance complexes, the media, Big Pharma, Big Insurance, the neoliberals, the neocons, the knock-kneed lesser evilists, and the voting machinery all locked up.

It's our world. You only live in it. For now.




Anyone who advocates voting for Clinton out of fear of Trump should just wear a t-shirt that reads:

I Am a Coward


They are in a dead heat because they are the same person. The Democratic party had a solution to this no-win situation with the option of Bernie Sanders and they chose to rig the nomination to Clinton from the start.....they blew it.


The recent polls have ranged from Clinton up 2 like this one to Clinton up 12. The RCP average is Clinton up 6.2. Two recent polls from Ohio and Pennsylvania showed Clinton up 4 in both. It would appear that Clinton has a pretty good lead unless somehow Quinnipiac is the one poll to believe.


Yeah, you Hill shills only want to talk about polls, better than having to talk about your horrifying, sociopathic, neoliberal gorgon of a candidate.

The blood of the wars this staggeringly evil and corrupt creep Hillary is going to start, and has already helped start, all the murdered men, women and children, that blood is on your hands. Poll that.


We also might avoid WW III.


If Bernie is totally unacceptable to the DNC but they also realize Clinton is vulnerable (which she certainly is, besides being a sociopathic monster), how about a compromise in the form of Joe Biden? He's nobody's first choice I'm guessing, although probably an acceptable alternative for many Americans of both parties. And I have no doubt he would trounce Mr. Trump. I suppose he would have to be convinced by an appeal to patriotism.


It is too bad that the main stream media- including MSNBC and Huffington Post- don't seem to get it- or if they do- fail to report it.
Bernie consistently out-polled Trump head to head in every national poll.
People are against these trade deals that cost Americans jobs.
Bernie is against those deals.
And finally- after first declaring it the 'gold standard' Hillary is against TPP- supposedly (yeah, we know the game here)
But when the DNC had a chance to support the Bernie and Clinton position on TPP in the platform- THEY TURNED IT DOWN. You morons!
And Trump took full advantage of Debbie Wasserman Schultz's STUPIDITY!

DEMOCRATS- Wake Up! People aren't supporting an establishment politician. Bernie warned you- look at Britain. And yet the Dems or is it the Dumbs- are running the MOST establishment neoliberal candidate they have.

And will MSNBC and Shallow Maddow cover it this way?
Just Say No to MSNBC. Here's proof- you saw it like I saw it:

And please donate a little something to Common Dreams.
I did- it wasn't painful and Act Blue handled the transaction.


What's more, the survey notes, 61 percent of American voters say that
"The 2016 election has increased the level of hatred and prejudice in
the U.S.."

What this should say is "...American voters say that Republican right wing policies and rhetoric has increased the level of hatred and prejudice..."


touche' :disappointed_relieved:


No need to call it "quote-unquote populist". Only in the USA, because of the progressive "prairie-populist" movement of Bob Lafolette and then the Texas populism of Ann Richards, Jim Hightower etc., is the word "populist" associated with progressive things and the promotion of integrity in politics. In the rest of the world - populism has always had at least a whiff of fascism about it - or at best it is a two-edged sword. Populists like Peron of Argentina or Huey Long of Louisiana were about as good as it gets - providing benefits to the poor and working class but at the expense of oppression of civil liberties and widespread cronyism and corruption. It only gets worse from there - like Mussolini, Franco, and Hitler. Modern-day populists include Vlad Putin - a certified gangster who has murdered political opponents, the Philippines recently elected, and scary, Duterte, the maybe-next French President Marine LePen and of course, Trump.


Yes, yes, for cryin' out loud, YES! Neoliberals seem to think she's the only possibly choice for thinking people, as opposed to all those Trump-lovers who are just stupid, barely literate Neanderthals. Why in the hell do they think Trump appeals to so many? Because they've been marginalized--have seen their jobs vanish, their savings decimated, and their futures made terrifying--duh!


What's more, the survey notes, 61 percent of American voters say that
_"The 2016 election has increased the level of hatred and prejudice in _
the U.S.."

What this should say is "...American voters say that Republican right wing policies and rhetoric has increased the level of hatred and prejudice..."

What it should say, if the reality were ever permitted to intrude into the propaganda matrix, is that right wing policies and rhetoric have increased because the Democratic Party has for decades now sold working people out to Wall Street and a globalized economy, decimating their lives and prospects.

How long have people like Chris Hedges and Noam Chomsky been warning about the coming of a rightwing demagogue like Trump if these neoliberal Democrats such as the Clintons, Obama, Gore, Lieberman, Kerry et al. kept betraying the working people of this country and grinding them into poverty?

“The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen. Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response.”– Noam Chomsky, speaking to Chris Hedges, in 2010