For the Many Millions Spent on Bombing Syria, The US Could Have Assisted Syrian Refugees by the Thousands
The people of Gander, NL are living proof that we don’t have to be horrible to one another. Their actions, on 9/11, and now with the Syrians they’ve accepted into their community are what we should all aspire to emulate in our daily lives. Kindness matters. I think we forget that in America. We respond with bombs instead of kindness, as a rule, and are more concerned with self-preservation than being good to one another. Thank you, Diane, and Gander, for reminding us what our world can and should be.
It is proven that Peaceful Coexistence is “way” less costly than waging war.
Less costly to the lives of the humans involved.
Less costly to the treasuries of the government’s involved.
Less costly to our planet and the environment.
The “Biggest Loser” in Peace, is those who are the manufacturers of Death Dealing and Human Suffering and their Paid For Puppets in government that help facilitate the Destruction they all profit from.
I think there are lots of good Americans. The government just won’t allow those poor Syrian refugees to come here, ya know the Syrian ban and all. There’s a growing disconnect between Americans and the US government which only seems to be growing wider with each passing year. It’s really sad that the US economy depends so much on war production to stay afloat. I have no idea how to change it, though I wish I could.
And if pigs had wings they could fly.
It’s never been about the money, it is about hate. All you hear is muslim bad, muslim bad, muslim bad and americans have the s!!t scared out of them.
As much as we like to brag about being the melting pot of the world and that we are the land of immigrants, we never have been gracious in accepting immigrants. Instead we have showered hate upon most, they are never seen as the ‘right’ kind of immigrant.
You have a president who ran on hate and a rise in hate crimes. A president who called countries s!!tholes. A president who has whipped fear and hate. And you ask why we can’t help the Syrians?
Really what is surprising is that we complain about Assad killing his people with chemical weapons. With all the hate towards them, I am surprised that the US doesn’t help kill more of them then we do already.
I admire the Syrian people also. I despise the US, the UK, Israel, the French and German governments as enemies of their own populations. Greedy elitist murderers one and all.
It began in today’s world with Bush destroying Iraq to control and steal the oil. It expanded to Syria, Yemen, and other nearby nations partly due to the carnage of drought and global warming. Criminals like Assad who is used by the US and other nations as a proxy for their wars pretending dropping bombs on innocent human beings for decades is “harmless” and really “protects them”. Add Trump running around selling US weapons for profit of his supporters. The latest are “harmless mini-nukes” they plan to drop on Iran. It is time for the Earth to explode for the safely of the universe?
The U.S. is home to the third largest Assyrian population in the world.
These are an ancient people and this has been going on for centuries.
LaMarche’s assertion is true, but leaves something out.
Without the millions spent bombing Syria, there would be no Syrian refugees to aid or ignore or bar from entering countries.
Syria had actually taken the lead in accepting refugees from US efforts in Iraq. The US and certain allies stepped up efforts to destabilize the admittedly fairly repressive Syrian government, channeling money and arms to mercenary groups that they called both “moderates” and “rebels,” including both ISIL and ISIS.
To be clear, the US is not strictly and simply the source of all funds for violence in Syria. That includes also at least 5 near-eastern countries and presumably various other CIA-allies, given that by the nature of its business, the unique binding of the CIA to the USA cannot be absolute. And of course the Russians and the Assad regime have committed violence in return; though this has been in response.
The US then took advantage of Assad’s attempts to contain these violent actors to excuse various military strikes that they could call “humanitarian,” despite their results. The Russians, seeing that they were being surrounded by American advances in Syria and Ukraine (via Ukrainian fascist proxies), entered this “war on terror” to strike against the groups destabilizing the Assad regime, many if not most of these on Western or Saudi payrolls.
If you do not destabilize the area, you do not have the refugees.
This is an odd article. No mention that there wouldn’t have been refugees if the United States had not started an illegal war of aggression against Syria.
Math is even harder is you don’t have the correct figures. Trump’s attack on Syria in April of last year alone cost $93 million. The figure presented is so absurd that I have to question the author.
85 percent of the bombs and shells and bullets that are killing the Syrian people are coming from Assad and the Russian forces helping him.
Ask any Syrian. I know some Syrian refugees. Do you? Their misery would be over tomorrow if someone would kill Assad.
No. Just no.
Where does this mythical “US started Syrian War” comer from?
Assad started the Syrian Civil War in 2011-12 when he brutally crushed popular protests calling for him to step down.
The US had no involvement in the Syrian Civil War at all until 2014, when it started arming the Kurdish YPG and the Free Syrian Army to support their efforts against ISIL, and to some extent, Syrian forces.
Most Syrians wish the US had gotten off the fence and taken out Assad. They will deal with the US occupiers later.
Curious… will there ever be a popular uprising again that the US left will support?
Doctor Death From Damascus?
The point is not that there is anything particularly good or right about Assad, still less about Assad’s bombing. The current “chemical attack” scenario has been exposed as fabricated of something else and apparently a false flag, but that’s not because Assad is not a tyrant. The point is that Western efforts to destabilize the country do not stop or slow Assad’s violence nor much of anyone else’s: they provoke and sustain such things. Just as American tyrants excuse their surveillance on the 9/11/2001 event, foreign governments excuse their oppression and actually increase it to provide security after an attack, including when that security is largely for themselves.
This story repeats itself fairly closely and very often:
- The trouble with the invasion of Iraq was not that Saddam Hussein was a nice guy who did no ill to his constituents. But crippling the country by starving its citizenry did not make him better; it gave him considerable reason to be suspicious and continue his regime as he could while he could. Invading it and killing him did reduce his own violence, per se. But of course it increased the violence and oppression in general.
- The Taliban were indeed oppressive. So are the Karzai brothers and their CIA and mercenary abetted opium trade. Conditions for Afghans have not been improved by war, but considerably hampered–as we would expect, no?
If we go back into the period designated the “Cold War,” there are a lot of other examples.
The point is not that it might not be reasonable to launch a humanitarian intervention against tyrants that would lead to tranquil and egalitarian society. The point is that this does not happen on this particular planet with this particular species. These attacks that get sold as “humanitarian” are not. The fact that this happens over and over suggests strongly that central players are lying about this, though many participants are apparently fooled.
For the nature of the recent claims of a chemical attack, Robert Fisk’s recent article (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html).
The protests where violent and infiltrated by terrorists from the very beginning:
But what happened is that you know, I'm not sourcing or quoting; I just saw with my eyes, and it was in the beginning of the revolution, it was just, like, one month and a half from the revolution. And things were you know, I was seeing a lot of weapons, people with RPGs, people with Kalashnikovs, you know, just crossing from the borders. And they were not one or two; they were a big number; they were just dominating the whole village that we were on the borders with. So, you know, the militarization of the revolution started early, and it may be those who were trying, maybe, to push and to you know, they want al-Assad to fall as soon as possible. Those wanted to say that al-Assad is facing the peaceful crackdown with weapons, while the others on the revolution side are kind of peaceful people, are not holding weapons.
Seven police officers and at least four demonstrators in Syria have been killed in continuing violent clashes that erupted in the southern town of Daraa last Thursday.
The Syrian revolution struck home yesterday. My wife, Manar Qash`ur [Kachour], burst into tears last night as she read the Facebook page that has kept her updated on events in her hometown, Latakia. Lt. Colonel Yasir Qash`ur, who was Manar’s cousin and 40 years old, was shot in Banyas on Sunday. He was one of two Lt. Colonels and 10 military personnel killed – more were wounded. Yasir’s funeral was held in the village this morning – Monday. My brother-in-law, Firas, and father-in-law, Shaaban, both attended.
An opposition member who lives outside Syria but has sources inside the country who have proved reliable in the past said the clashes over the past three days in Jisr Al-Shugur, Khan Shaykhun and surrounding villages were between members and supporters of the Islamist group the Muslim Brotherhood and the Syrian security forces.
He said that 90 security members and 23 opposition members were killed Monday. In addition, nine tanks were destroyed and two helicopters were downed, he said.
The bombings were in the Kfar Sousa neighbourhood, south-west of Damascus city center. The state-owned news channel, al-Ikhbariya al-Suriya, said the first car bomb exploded outside the offices of an unspecified security agency. When guards at a nearby General Security Directorate compound went to inspect the first blast, the driver of another vehicle rammed the main gates and detonated the bomb it was carrying. According to a Syrian journalist who lives in Kfar Sousa, gunfire was heard immediately following the blasts and windows up to 200 m (670 ft) away were shattered.
The bombings killed 44 people and injured 166. Syrian state media reported that most of the casualties are civilians.
You are a bald faced liar:
A December 13, 2006 cable, "Influencing the SARG [Syrian government] in the End of 2006,"1 indicates that, as far back as 2006 - five years before "Arab Spring" protests in Syria - destabilizing the Syrian government was a central motivation of US policy. The author of the cable was William Roebuck, at the time chargé d'affaires at the US embassy in Damascus. The cable outlines strategies for destabilizing the Syrian government.
A similar scenario is now playing out in Syria, where the West, despite acknowledging the existence of Al Qaeda in Benghazi, Libya, is using these militants, and the exact same networks used to send fighters to Iraq, to flood into and overrun Syria. This, after these very same Libyan militants were implicated in an attack that left a US ambassador dead on September 11, 2012.
The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) currently arming, funding, and commanding entire brigades of the so-called "Free Syrian Army" (FSA), is designated an Al Qaeda affiliate by the United Nations pursuant to resolutions 1267 (1999) and 1989 (2011), in addition to being listed by both the US State Department and the UK Home Office (page 5, .pdf) as a foreign terrorist organization and a proscribed terrorist organization respectively.
The Obama administration has decided to launch a covert operation to send heavy weapons to Syrian rebels, Christina Lamb of The Sunday Times of London reports.
The weapons, including automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and some antitank weapons, are being funneled mostly across the Turkish border by way of a shadowy network of intermediaries including Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood and paid for by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the officials said.
You are a bald faced liar:
Suppose a respectable opinion poll found that most Syrians are in favour of Bashar al-Assad remaining as president, would that not be major news? Especially as the finding would go against the dominant narrative about the Syrian crisis, and the media considers the unexpected more newsworthy than the obvious.
And you have the audacity to reference Al Jazeera, a Qatari state sponsored outlet…
Al Jazeera, literally "The Island", though referring to the Arabian Peninsula in context), also known as JSC (Jazeera Satellite Channel), is a state-funded broadcaster in Doha, Qatar, owned by the Al Jazeera Media Network.
… who has a publicly stated goal of overthrowing Assad …
In 2011, the U.S. joined France, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the UK to form the Friends of Syria Coalition, which formally demanded the removal of Assad. The CIA provided $6 million to Barada, a British TV channel, to produce pieces entreating Assad’s ouster.
… and funds ISIS:
A recently leaked 2014 email from Hillary Clinton acknowledges, citing Western intelligence sources, that the U.S.-backed regimes in Saudi Arabia and Qatar have supported ISIS.
I don’t know who your refer to as “left”, but absolutely! There will be a public uprising against the anarcho-syndicalists and socialist quislings who called for and supported crimes against humanity by the United States… the largest purveyor of violence and state sponsor of terrorism.
While you have been living in a propaganda fueled fantasy, the anti-war movement has been documenting the illegal war of aggression and support of terrorists against Syria. You have supported what the Nuremberg Tribunal refers to as the supreme international crime. You are going to be discredited to such a degree
that history is going to look back at you in the same way we view Bush and his neoconservative cabal.