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Global Covid-19 Cases Top 10 Million As HHS Secretary Warns 'Window is Closing' to Get Disease Back Under Control in US

Wow if we had only known
Zed has the only REAL perspective

Nice little bow tied box you got there

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I would prefer the far more accurate word of “privilege” over “entitlement.” They have come to believe their privilege is something they are entitled to, but it is a false idea. There are some things we are all entitled to, such as clean air, water, a livable planet and, although, it has yet to catch on in America, I will add health care, food, housing and justice.

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Exactly. That’s why you are entirely unserious to write “But only lots of us over 80 are going to die. Period.”

Feel free to rage on as if your hyperbole serves some purpose.

FYI – as if you give a shit, as you enact your bizarre tantrum for unknown reasons – my partner is 37 and seriously immune-compromised. i’m going to ignore you completely, and try not to kill her.

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Not necessarily.

But since youre trolling me, I think I am going to bow out. Take care.

We need to restore the kind of thinking that brings such rights into being. Over the last few decades, corporations have actually been given rights to sell those things. Ending legal provisions of dozens of once public services. Those that still remain wont remain for long. The whole planet is literally being stolen, formally, “legally” (although it shouldnt be legal)

The key to reversing this is first, in getting out of this bad international deal, or perhaps by changing something called the governmental authority exclusion, its a bad definition thats being used for public services, one thats so narrow almost no services are allowed to be public anymore which means they must be sold by corporations, not supplied by governments at all ever. The US is leading this theft of the public domain for transnational corporations. Its tied to a campaign to alienate our nation’s exclusive rights to work, converting a relatively small potential workforce of 350 million - increasing it to a potential 7 billion, which will lower wages to a fraction of what they are now. So the people whose only posession is being American and being able to work here - while others cant, is likely to vanish into thin air soon. Both parties seem tobe trying to hide all this and tell people what they think they want to hear but both are being very dishonest. Also most deregulation now locks in but most people dont know this.

Hi Zed,

I’ve been watching and following the WTO, PPP, the Doha Round and all the rest for many years. It’s good you are bringing it up and encouraging folks to keep their eye on that ball that seems to be able to get by under all the distractions. I predicted many years ago that the slide to the bottom would include medical, legal and educational services. The other side won’t be giving that push up anytime soon without more coming from our side. What ever happened to all the organizing that helped bring about those amazing protests against the Doha Round, from Seattle, to Bangkok to here in Hong Kong, etc.? All seems mighty quiet these days but the danger remains.

What is PPP?

Here’s something i want you to get:

The whole planet was already stolen. Literally.

Do you not understand that? The entire structure of “property rights” – which was imposed a lot, lot, lot longer ago than GATS – is entirely illegitimate.

Of course we need to dump GATS. We need to do a lot more than that. We need global land reform; global wealth reform; reparations for the Grand Theft Continental, genocide and enslavement that were the foundations of colonization. We need to roll back the Doctrine of Discovery and Manifest Destiny. We need to abolish the limited-liability, investor-owned corporation. We need to impose social accounting and ecological accounting superior to financial accounting. We need to democratize wealth, and we need ecology and humanity to trump economy.

And these are – literally – existential needs. The looting class, and the systems they have constructed to impose and ratify their rule, and the economy they have built to funnel more and more wealth into their tiny hands, are killing the ecology. Time is way, way beyond short, and we need to set our sights way, way beyond dismantling the global “trade” rules they are constructing.

GATS is just a recent tool of the looting class, as they try to complete their centuries-old project of colonization, privatization, and Grand Theft Planetary. The whole project – and the looting class that carries it out – need to be seen, and understood, and faced down, and dismantled, by an organized global movement of peoples who put ecology and humanity above greed and ego.

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Oops, Typo. Meant TPP. and then there was the one that was in Europe, with Ps and Ts too. Sorry.

Yes, it infects the brain though the nose and not infrequently that infection eventually reaches the respiratory nucleus in the brain stem and stops peoples breathing. I’m not kidding.

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Have you read this? This is really worth reading. Its also hosted at IATP, ~http://members.iinet.net.au/~jenks/GATS_BC2001.html

I think this is a key part of it.

You really just never can acknowledge anything anyone writes, can you? You just repeat yourself, and repeat and repeat and repeat, your arrogant presumption that you, and only you, have something to teach, and nothing to learn.

Thanks for being a stone wall, and re-emphasizing the impossibility of anyone here having an actual interaction with you.

I’m trying to be helpful which you would see if you read what I am pointing out. If we want to fix the mess we’re in we HAVE to do this or we’ll just keep running into the same brick wall until we’re dead.

Anyway, I am not your enemy.

Most of the things you bring up run into this specific problem, because it blocks goverments various means of fixing the vast inequality.

—quote from webwalk----

We need to do a lot more than that. We need global land reform; global wealth reform; reparations for the Grand Theft Continental, genocide and enslavement that were the foundations of colonization. We need to roll back the Doctrine of Discovery and Manifest Destiny. We need to abolish the limited-liability, investor-owned corporation. We need to impose social accounting and ecological accounting superior to financial accounting. We need to democratize wealth, and we need ecology and humanity to trump economy.

And these are – literally – existential needs. The looting class, and the systems they have constructed to impose and ratify their rule, and the economy they have built to funnel more and more wealth into their tiny hands, are killing the ecology. Time is way, way beyond short, and we need to set our sights way, way beyond dismantling the global “trade” rules they are constructing.

GATS is just a recent tool of the looting class, as they try to complete their centuries-old project of colonization, privatization, and Grand Theft Planetary. The whole project – and the looting class that carries it out – need to be seen, and understood, and faced down, and dismantled, by an organized global movement of peoples who put ecology and humanity above greed and ego.

Yes, and to even begin that we need to start somewhere, this is where I think we should start.

See the links

[Public Services and the GATS
(~https://www.ictsd.org/sites/default/files/research/2008/06/cassim_steuart_part3.pdf)
[Interpretation of Article I, Section 3 (b) and © of GATS - PublicServicesScope.pdf
~http://www.ciel.org/Publications/PublicServicesScope.pdf)

Trading Health Care Away?: GATS, Public Services and Privatisation ~http://www.iatp.org/files/Trading_Health_Care_Away_GATS_Public_Services_.htm)

[New study “Model clauses for the exclusion of public services from trade and investment agreements” | EPSU] (~http://www.epsu.org/article/new-study-model-clauses-exclusion-public-services-trade-and-investment-agreements)

[GATS and Public Service Systems] (~http://members.iinet.net.au/~jenks/GATS_BC2001.html

Google has been censoring that site and suppressing it from coming up in their search results for months now. Other search engines (you really should stop using google as they filter results based on what they want you to see, not to mention all the tracking) have allowed the site to filter organically to the top of their results. There is a paragraph at the top of the quakerworks stats page about this.

I’m not raging on, you are. Good luck to you and your partner.

You’re lying though, and it’s blunt and obvious.

Not sure why you are so insistent on ignoring that your false statements are false, but there it is.

Used to have a lot of respect for you as a commenter here.

What is it about the numbers (my county and California) I supplied that bother you?

As of today, in Sweden 5,310 Covid 19 deaths. 220 in people under 50.
Yes a few, people under 50 – almost all of whom will have co-morbidities – will die.
But that number is not very high. Tell me where I’m wrong.

Dude, why are you being so effing stupid?

Go back and read my post. i was explicit, crystal clear, about what you wrote that is blatantly false.

Done with this fake conversation.

Bullshit. I supplied you with raw data. You made some vague accusation that was far from crystal clear.

Be specific: What lie have I told?

A lot of people cant deal with anything that extends healthy lifespan. They seem to want poor people, especially, to die sooner. I dont know if thats the case in any specific instance, but as somebody who has been observing the interactions between policy and health interventions, there clearly is a large body of health information that should be communicated to the public that isnt thats not being communicated for some unknown reason, whatever it is must be totally unjustificable.

One good example, older people and women of childbearing age who may get pregant, and expectant mothers, should supplement with a moderate amount of n-acetyl cysteine two or three times a day.

It would protect a great many aspects of people’s health. The government used to tell people this, it no longer seems to.