“ Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
- Frederick Douglass
We knew this in the 60’s and 70’s with Vietnam and Civil Rights. Somehow, we forgot.
Now we will have to relearn it - the hard way
As i wrote about the USA a few minutes ago in another thread:
“We need to organize and connect our movements, to build power, to directly disrupt business as usual, to impose consequences when our demands are not met.”
Guatemala of course is not the USA. Guatemala’s student movement has a more than century-long history of direct engagement and radical demands. Also Guatemala had a guerrilla movement active for decades against the corrupt dicatorships that followed the US-sponsored coup of 1953, and the memory of that movement still lives among large segments of the population. And Guatemala is majority indigenous with over 20 different languages still spoken.
But despite the differences between the two countries, we in the USA need to recognize the power of having movements that directly represent themselves when the “representative democracy” of the political system does not, and impose consequences when popular demands are not met.
Wouldn’t trump just love it if we burned a Reichstag type building in Washington.
He would be handed a reason for his marshal law, stick it to the people thing.
But here we vote on budgets, supposedly negating the need for revolt.
That is how you protest if demands are not met peacefully (which they never will). They have to be afraid for their wallets and lives, otherwise, nothing but a few crumbs is what we get.
Over 70 million Trump voters corroborate Mr. Douglass.
The president must have a lot of support from Trump and will have a lot from Biden.
¡Viva The People! The oligarchs can’t prosper without you. Make them share. It is your country!
An alternative vision that has been proposed: Walk away, yes walk away as the Mayans did in days of old. Befriend and work with local farmers to exchange goods/services so you can walk away from this system from hell. This is called non cooperation.
web – Thank you –
I continue to fail to understand how all liberal movements don’t come together –
and as an aside, there seems to be a new party now formed officially – People’s Party.
Biden is about to announce his Cabinet – and not expecting that it will thrill any liberal.
Guatemale IS the USA because of the US-sponsored coup of 1953 which moved things
the way Elites like them. CIA acts for Elites –
Meanwhile, it is dictatorships that are trying to LIMIT HEALTH CARE for their populations –
in other words – encouraging death of as many as they can. Call me crazy, but oddly
enough also looks like what Trump/GOP has been doing here –
"But despite the differences between the two countries, we in the USA need to recognize the power of having movements that directly represent themselves when the “representative democracy” of the political system does not, and impose consequences when popular demands are not met."
On the other hand, I am really looking forward to December 14th and the Electoral College confirmation of Biden! If Trump was ever going to get hit in the head with a golf ball, this would be a perfect time to have him knocked out for about 5 weeks!
The story forgot to mention whether or not the Politicians were still inside the building when they lit the fire.
The Guatemalan Congress voted on the budget–it passed, hence the protests.
Perhaps our C.I.A. is once again involved.
Nobody seemed to care enough to stop the coup in 53-54.
You would think messing with Iran at that time would have kept us busy.
I don’t think the CIA is ever NOT involved in the happenings in Central America, to this day–Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, etc. From what I’ve read, writings by Stephen Kinzer and others, Dulles and the gang were so thrilled by their success in Iran in '53 that they decided to do the same in Guatemala in '54. Makes ya so proud, right? /s
The US and UK were also busy overthrowing Mosaddegh the democratically elected leader of Iran in 1953 and signing an armistice in Korea that year as well. CIA was very active promoting democracy that year, and every year since.
Right – was looking at that as a lot changed with Truman – and then IKE –
though IKE resisted a lot of CIA/Joint Chiefs stuff – or maybe he did?
But the first of the CIA coups came under Truman – who just happened to have
agreed to the creation of the CIA – and he was long mentored by John McCloy
one of the most notorious names to come our way from Nuremberg trials all the
way to Dealey Plaza.
Truman and Puerto Rico – but don’t know enough about that – political prisoners?
If we allow the continuing CIA running of drugs and guns in our societies, we will end up
the same way that other – many Latin nations – have ended up with their democracies gone –
or their left-leaning governments gone – and enough violence and chaos in our societies to
overturn democracy here. Drugs and gun running also encourage rise of organized crme.
We’d be looking for asylum in other nations, as well.