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Hacked: Clinton's Musings on Sanders Fans, Nuclear Arms, Inhabiting the Center-Right


#1

Hacked: Clinton's Musings on Sanders Fans, Nuclear Arms, Inhabiting the Center-Right

Lauren McCauley, staff writer


#2

By her pick for VP we shall know her


#3

Bernie supporters are: " children of the great recession" ?

No Hillary, they are mostly the politically informed that see through you as a war monger and a Wall Street stooge. And realize you have been selected as their puppet!

I am with her....Dr. Stein that is!


#4

Hillary doesn't want to overpromise on things like universal healthcare and free college. If she wasn't a candidate of the 1% and the MIC those things would be doable. Jill Stein thinks such things are important in a working democracy and so do I.


#7

She referred to an age segment of his supporters heavily affected by the Great Recession. That is not in contradiction with being informed.


#8

so another thing that Clinton isn't is a political philosopher. There's nothing in her pantheon of desired policies that could be considered "centrist" at all, much less "center left". She's one of two things, both bad. She's either a devoted neoliberal or a devoted neoconservative. They are both thoroughly right wing ideologies.
As to the garbage about "the art of the possible", Clinton is doing two things here: for starters, she's denying agency to the entirety of the political class, since she's referring more or less to what is possible with their donors. She's also dismissing entirely the notion of political leadership, as if politicians exist to service the whims of their constituencies (no matter how small or rich those may be).
So it's another case of a politician knowing a great deal about what's happening, but not really giving a f*ck. And that surprises exactly no one.


#9

Most disturbing to me is that education is discussed as a subset of economics. Never even mentioned is the de facto repressive "wet blanket" that has ALREADY been woven, stretched and saturated by the Clinton legacy of corporate degradation by usurpation of societal equilibrium.
First all opportunity is subjected to predatory capitalism, then the nefarious priority inversion 'strategy' in an oh-ain't-it-awful velvet screed of claims so arrogantly referred to as real politic completely denies that EDUCATION is a societal necessity.
In the meantime the - quite literal- criminal cronies scramble to force legislation to make their crimes "legal".
Ethics anyone?


#11

You are quite right. A more accurate description of Hillary is she is Right to Center Right, or Right to Center. She is to the right of Nixon, Eisenhower, and Truman.


#12

I listened to the whole thing, and as Bernie's spokesman says, this is a nothing burger. The part where she talked about education, she was specifically reflecting a conversation she had with African American college-aged students. She wasn't trashing people for living in basements, but was noting a reason why we should have empathy--namely, college students didn't have the opportunities their parents did and are graduating with more dept.

We can get into a granular analysis of every comment she made, but it's pointless. Politico corrected the headline on its article posting the story for a reason.


#13

We also know Hillary from over 30 years of talking like a progressive, but acting like a neocon, neoliberal fascist for the oligarchy.


#15

Bernie supporters are: " children of the great recession" ?

So in her mind, Bernie supporters are only nine years old. Typical arrogant behavior of a sociopath.


#16

Jill who?


#18

Did you listen to it, or are you reacting to a headline? That portion of the recording was one where she was reflecting on a meeting she had with college-aged African American women. Her point is obvious--young people graduating from college after the recession don't have the opportunities they should have. Here's a link so you can read it that horrible awful part yourself:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rob_Flaherty/status/782253345310474240

Jesus, some people see evil everywhere.


#21

Just like those massive anti-war demonstrations that kept GW Bush from invading Iraq?
Right?

Once in office they don't give a shit what we peons think or do.


#23

I guess so.


#25

Excellent comment. The pablum about her being pulled to the left is ridiculous. That's a stance, a slant. She doesn't want to over promise because she's not making promises. Her donors do that, and they've never been much on promises.


#26

And so if you're feeling like you're consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn't pay a lot, and doesn't have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. So I think we should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism. We want people to be idealistic. We want them to set big goals. But to take what we can achieve now and try to present them as bigger goals.

Ye Olde Baite and Switch ..

"We must present the crumbs we offer as far greater goals than the real solutions to the very real problems that could only be solved if we the extremely wealthy were to sacrifice some of the unearned profits flowing into our massive portfolios right now or, perhaps, end a few of the wars we are sponsoring."


#28

Something more "hopeful" about Trump? You mean the guy who is kicking around the idea of having Sean Hannity be his Chief of Staff? Or, who features Roger Aisles, Rudy Giuliani, and Chris Christie as chief campaign advisors? Can't wait too see the "hope" he brings into the White House and appoints to the courts.


#31

After Election 2008 confirmed that "hope" plus three bucks buys a cup of coffee, would it be best to keep "hope" out of the election 2016 equation ?


#32

Sad but true.

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