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Has Your Local Lawmaker Pledged to Support Medicare for All? Have You?


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Has Your Local Lawmaker Pledged to Support Medicare for All? Have You?

Jake Johnson, staff writer

As support for single payer continues to surge following the GOP's failed attempt to strip healthcare from millions, Justice Democrats, Brand New Congress, and other groups launched a week of action on Monday imploring the public and lawmakers to pledge their support for Medicare for All.


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In the case of my “representative”, Nancy Pelosi, the answer is “NO”.


#3

Luckily for MN, neither Al Franken nor Amy Klobuchar supports this wretched pos, but God only knows what other corruption they’ll push for.

From the article:
"Medicare for All would save the average family around $5,000 per year, the groups argue."
How can this save my family $5000 a year when we don’t spend nearly that much? I’ve been married 38 years with 2 grown sons. We had our share of broken arms, stitches, even occasional hospitalizations and we’ve never come close to $5000 a year in costs. How will paying huge tax increases save us money?

“Oh”, you say, “It’s nor for YOU, it’s for us. Shut up and give us your income you greedy bastard!”

From a PoliticFact article: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jan/13/how-much-would-bernie-sanders-health-care-plan-cos/
"Most employer-based health insurance policies currently have more comprehensive coverage than traditional Medicare, pointed out William Hsiao, a leading health economist at Harvard University who designed universal coverage systems for Vermont, China, Sweden, and South Africa, to name a few.

While Sanders argues that single-payer will make the health system more efficient, “we have seen no evidence of this from the Medicare program, whose cost has grown substantially faster(my empahsis) than the economy for most of the last 50 years,” Antos said."

“Keep in mind each dollar saved is a reduction in someone’s income, which is part of why this plan is politically untenable,” said Don Taylor, a professor of health policy at Duke University.

Medicare For All. Charley Foxtrot manifested.


#4

This is the GOP Rep. Leonard Lance/R-NJ and happily there has been a lot of constituent
activity around his local office here. He’s slime and always has been.

In New Jersey on Wednesday, a woman asked Rep. Leonard Lance (R-NJ) about his support for repealing President Obama’s signature health care law and about the congressman’s plan to defund Planned Parenthood. The crowd gave the question a 30-second standing ovation, according to a spokesperson for the women’s health organization. While the audience continued screaming, Lance struggled to defend his support for dividing Planned Parenthood into “two completely separate organizations” — one to “deal with” women’s health and the other to perform abortions.

As he spoke, one woman pointed out that zero women were present at the GOP’s meeting in which they decided to slash women’s health services.

Rather than going through the Washington, DC switchboard where they are sidelining calls,
preventing any discussion with their office reps, and making it as difficult as possible for
citizens to register their complaints … try to call and deal with the local offices … where often
now you will also find fellow protesters picketing outside.

In regard to the video (and I didn’t watch every moment of it) … the Hyde Amendment should
be overturned and impoverished women should have the right to financial aid for an abortion.
The restraints on clinics which are now very few are steadily increasing the costs of these
women’s clinics and forcing their closure. This is of course the continuing on of the War on
Women by Elite Patriarchy/wealthy.

We remember these men who have given us the violent oppression of women and a long
road of suffering and servitude as well as the abuse of children which continues on today with
20% or more of our children living in poverty, and many will also remember the reality of
CHILD LABOR. It is females/women/mothers who protect children, it is Elite Males who wish
to exploit them and their families.

PS: Sadly as you’ll note in the video it seems that some citizens think it is wise to encourage the
GOP and Dems to work together without realizing that that’s kinda like asking the CIA to get
together with the Mafia to decide on our futures.


#5

“Pledging to support” anything plus two bucks buys a cup of coffee.

Congresscritters VOTING to enact Medicare for all would actually be of real value to the 99%.

I will not pledge, seeing how I have always supported Medicare for all and even voted for many candidates who would have voted for it.


#6

Lawmaker support comes down to who gives them the biggest bribes, the people or the insurance companies.


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No, it is Expanded and Improved Medicare For All: No co-pays, no deductibles and, since the pool we will all pay into is the entire nation rather than the much smaller pool anyone with private health insurance and limited to narrow ‘networks’ of providers pay into premiums will be less than traditional Medicare. Medicare as it stands is woefully inadequate and does not cover vision and dental.

Finally, in order for those who are better off to want to support this coverage that would treat each and everyone equally and with dignity they would, admittedly, have to care about their fellow human beings and their nation. It is really that simple. Selfishness should have no place in society.


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EVERYONE who works pays into existing Medicare and only a portion of the population can use it.
It covers almost nothing, in fact requiring recipients to BUY additional healthcare insurance after paying into it for their ENTIRE working life.

"woefully inadequate ’ barely describes Medicare.

Everyone pays for it, only some can use it and those who do are required by law to BUY ADDITIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE!!!
So, we’ll dramatically expand the expenses and somehow SAVE money!?!?

I know you’re just messing with me 'cause it’s funny to get me riled up, but don’t forget that there are people on this forum who are so stupid that they actually believe that.

By the way, could you publish your SSN, banking info, address and other personal info here so the less fortunate could use that to get their fair share of dignity? After all, property is theft and I’m sure you’re no thief.
Thanks in advance.


#9

Your argument about Medicare has no merit. Medicare takes care of elderly and disabled. What would private insurance look like if they were restricted to only taking care of the sick and elderly? Your argument has no merit. But, then again, you are just another insurance industry sock puppet.


#10

That is my whole point!
Medicare today is paid for by everyone, only provides woefully inadequate coverage to a portion of the population and has exploding costs.
Only a moron or a liar (Sanders) possibly to expect to greatly expand expenditures and save the average middle class family $5000 a year (his words).

And where did you dig up that conclusion? The very thing I hate most about ObamaCrap is its ownership by the insurance companies.
Obama and his cohorts in Congress used this legislation to set in concrete the principle that the government can force all to buy the products of giant corporations whether we want the products or not.

That is the very definition of Fascism. How can everyone here miss that?


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ObamaCrap, as you call it was a product of the Heritage Foundation, friends of your employers.

I said nothing favorable about buying health insurance as in the ACA.

The status quo health care system has huge waste built in. Most of that waste is because we include the for profit parasites—the insurance industry.

Exploding costs have nothing to do with Medicare. They are not the fault of Medicare. Expanding Medicare is the best way to cover everyone and control the costs. Any deficiency that currently exists in Medicare can be corrected once the health care profiteers are removed from the equation.


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Nope, I’m self employed and have to pay 100% of what I get.

I agree, if you include government costs as well.

So, the way to make it cheaper is to make it much, much more expensive by covering everything for everyone.
Wow, just wow.

So, in short, we take what we have now and expand the costs exponentially. Then we replace the expenses of the corrupt insurance industry with the expenses of a vast government bureaucracy and we’ll have free healthcare.

The problem lies in the fact that the thrice damned insurance industry couldn’t do what it has done without government support. I can’t just buy healthcare from a provider without fighting both of those elephants.

The cheapest healthcare would come from me working directly with my doctor and her staff. Every government and insurance hack added to that interaction needlessly drives up costs.

But this was never about costs in general, it’s about you getting other peoples money.


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U.S.A. will never get a single payer universal government controlled health care system!
To operate these types of systems 3 essential things are needed.
Take one away–and the other 2 mean nothing works.

  1. Everyone in the country–man, woman, and child must belong.
    Absolutely no exceptions!
    2.Everyone must accept the same basic coverage.
    No one can pick or choose based on any reason
    Example–“I can’t belong to a plan that pays for abortions”.
  2. This is the main reason Americans will never get the system–
    The payer (government) must have complete control over the prices of the services.
    There isn’t enough money in any country to pay for medical services-- when the practitioners are free to charge what ever they feel like demanding.
    In ccountries that have this type of system the practitioners form groups and their representatives bargain with the payer for fee rates.
    This includes hospitals .
    Does anyone reading this actually believe the above conditions can be imposed on the health care system in the USA?
    Right away, the Insurance industry will be at war with it–they will be the first money making group to be cut from the existing US system.

#14

Man, I hope you’re right.

Or, as the famous Fascist theoretician Benito Mussolini put it, “Everything in the State. Nothing outside the State

And you guys call Trump a Fascist.

Healthcare is just the ruse being used to justify a Totalitarian State.


#15

Sounds like you people have their health care locked in -----for now.
“I’m alright Jack”— Up yours!
Take a look around at the rest of the “developed” world.
Most have had a universal health care system for decades-- and the ain’t —
—totalitarian
—dictatorships
—run by facist
They are–
–healthier
–happier
–and there health costs are about half what they are in the US
Even your hero Trump says the US system costs more and delivers less.


#16

Try actually reading my post. I don’t have anything like I want.

Yeah, I know. But not all of us are happy with the status quo.

And such low taxes, too. Quite the bargain.

I once spent several years working on a health care office management system that had to run in 14 countries.
Our team members from Canada and England had nothing but horror stories about “single payer” health care.
As expensive and screwed up as American health care is, when their family back home got really ill (heart problems and breast cancer), they came here.
No insurance. Just paid out of pocket and were grateful that the care was available.

My immigrant friends from Russia and Ukraine are appalled to see the U.S. charging down the very path they escaped from. Sad times coming for us all if we don’t stop this madness.


#17

I agree.
Your system works great.
If you have–
— money—
—LOT’S of money
–unlimited supply of money
–medicade
–medicare
Oops, sorry the last 2 are socialism.