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'Historic Victory' as Senate Votes to End U.S. Involvement in 'Unauthorized War' in Yemen


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'Historic Victory' as Senate Votes to End U.S. Involvement in 'Unauthorized War' in Yemen

Jake Johnson, staff writer

After defeating two last-minute amendments by ultra-hawkish Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) that would have completely gutted the measure, the Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly passed Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) resolution to end U.S. military support for Saudi Arabia's years-long assault on Yemen by a bipartisan vote of 56-41.


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Note that the war is “years long” and it was the OB administration that was behind it at the beginning with its $100 BILLION+ arms sale to the Saudis. No Dim outrage then.

What will the Blue Wave House do with it considering the Dims recruited many of them from the military and/or security services? And where is Pelosi, who’s on the payroll of many military contractors, on this?

Meanwhile the people of Yemen have to wait until next year to find out and see what “message” this so-far meaningless vote (the Senate must vote again) sends. It’s not like the military lobby and AIPAC won’t be working overtime on this until then.


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Throughout history when there is power ‘above’, change only occurs when there is pressure from ‘below’. Cutting through the spin and being reminded of actual factual history can be a timely energizer.

Economic update from Richard Wolff and Democracy in Action.


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Nothing but Kabuki Theater


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Notice the Progressive Caucus has the largest number of members in the Democratic house side of the aisle? Turn the page, a new chapter…
And, since when has serving in the military automatically made you a War Hawk?
As to OhBummer’s Adm; he’s never going to be President again and the Dimocrats won’t be able to put that dumpty humpty back together unless the American people let them.
So it goes…


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And the most recent tax cut is adding great insult to decades of injury. A tax on the rich is imperative.


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Kool Aid. So yummy.


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“Historic Victory” … really? The senate doing their duty charged by the constitution is a ‘victory’?
Not to mention this generally same bunch has voted repeatedly to fund the genocide of Yemeni
civilians including school buses full of children. This was a safe vote. Note: The debate was about words in a toothless resolution. These clowns do not have the backbone to oppose the warmongering industry


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It’s better than the " Yellow Snow " brand you’re endorsing as a Power-Ade. Going for the youth vote, are we?


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Dirty. rotten, war criminals, makes me want to puke!


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The Senate vote may be in but one has to be pretty gullible to actually believe the end of US involvement in the war torn country of Yemen…


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Other than perhaps a satisfying gesture, what good would that do?
If ALL the corporate income and ALL the income from upper middle class and richer were confiscated, it would make a dent in the deficit but not balance the budget we have now. Much less pay for new spending such as Medicare for All.

Just sayin’.


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I think there is more money there than you assume. Secondly, we don’t have to kill their bank accounts, just have them pay an annual rate, just the opposite of getting the raise they will be getting.

Medicare for all should be a shared expense by all the people. But a higher rate would defer a fight to cut military spending. It could address our debt over time, and begin an infrastructure project. That’s after we save the planet of course.


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Let’s not forget that US support of the Saudis/Kuwaitis in Yemen began under Obushma.


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What the hell are you talking about? The US deficit is (FY2019) about 1 trillion dollars (https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783). The profit (not income - that doesn’t make sense to discuss here) from US corporations is about 8 trillion per year (https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/corporate-profits). The bill (additional federal money) for Health care that was estimated if we went Single Payer was 3.2 billion per year (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17631240/medicare-for-all-bernie-sanders-32-trillion-cost-voxcare).

So about 1/2 of all corporate profits will do what you said all of it plus seizing a bunch of personal income will do.

In terms of household income there are 118 million households and the top 20% has a mean income of 200k/yr (https://statisticalatlas.com/United-States/Household-Income) if you you pulled say 25% of that (just to get some round numbers), that is 118e6 x 0.25 x 0.2 x 200e3 or about 1.2 trillion dollars (I thought that would be more actually). Now it could be I’m double counting some of this because some corporate profits get paid to shareholders and are counted as income.

This doesn’t even account for the fact that the 3.2 trillion dollar number for health care is the money that the federal budget goes but individual payments (premiums and copays) go down. So many people in the middle class and even lower can still handle paying some extra taxes if their total money going out actually goes down.

The case for fiscal solvency of a single payer system in the US is very simple - I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mislead people that it is otherwise.


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Thank you, Bernie. You are in the news in moonofalabama.org Dec. 13 today, Bernie. Seems that the British are accused of spying and influence-peddling with moles this time.


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Sorry, but a symbolic vote that changes nothing on the ground is not a “historic victory.” Paul Ryan has ensured that a companion bill in the House cannot be voted on and passed. So nothing changes. Let’s try the same thing after Dems gain control in 2019. In the meantime, Paul Ryan, repubs, and 5 Dems are responsible for more Yemenis dying at the hands of Saudi Arabia and its murderous prince leader.


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Serious question. How does this vote change anything?


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There was plenty of outrage Tom, from Dem Progressives, Independents, and all people of conscience, just not much from the toadies and stooges to for-profit wars and Israeli extremism… To write that “Dims” collectively had no outrage is not entirely accurate, but I agree support for real change has not been supported by the entrenched establishment sellout Clinton/Obama wing…the struggle to unite behind justice and civilian priorities demands we not empower forces that try to divide “us”, whatever they call themselves…

“We” must create/restore the mechanisms and coalition to force political power and effect an agenda that reflects a different vision of the future …to inform the people, not allow (easier said than done) the big-money bought-out MSM propaganda machine to lie and distort truth, or fail to tell the whole truth to the public…to support and actually elect people of conscience and moral compass, dedicated to the Common Good and peace rather than war and the $6 Trillions squandered/stolen from the nation. or servitude to vast wealth…to truth rather than BS falsehood and mental fantasy…to restore the forms/norms of a civilian progressive/left nation and priorities, to restore much higher taxation on wealth, rather than cater to, and continue to fund, the obscene waste and corruption of the war-machine/MICC…again all that much easier said than done, but once a path is chosen, people, informed and energized to fight for real comprehensive change, it can happen if there is some unity of purpose…damn-sure will not happen without unity!.

The DP “Dims” - the entrenched tools of big-money, for-profit war-machine, and slashing fair taxation on the uber-wealthy and monopoly corporate pirates - those forces took control and still dominate the party apparatus and must now be challenged, fought, and their narrow focus and servitude to wealth and power be removed in their turn by _people_of moral compass and dedication to an America that really is “great”!

Don’t throw the baby out with the bathtub…


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So many naysayers voicing doubt and worse that this vote means nothing …energy better spent changing the dynamic and organizing change.

The war machine, and the Congressional co-conspirators that fund it, must be reined-in along with its obscene budget diverting (stealing) trillions from civilian priorities, reducing the hundreds of overseas bases, fool “generals” by the hundreds, and the corrupt, subversive, arms industry they all (especially Congress) serve, must be brought under severe civilian control…that will not happen, or even begin, when we fail to support change when it - rarely - happens…easy to criticize, and spew vindictive, much harder to keep the ball rolling…