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Huge 'People Over Pipeline' Victory as TransCanada Forced to Kill Energy East


#1

Huge 'People Over Pipeline' Victory as TransCanada Forced to Kill Energy East

Jake Johnson, staff writer

"This is an important day in the fight against climate change in Canada. Energy East was a disaster waiting to happen."


#2

So nice to read some good news for a change! Accolades to all the good people who made this happen. Lets hope this is the beginning of the end for the fossil fuel industries.


#3

Key words: “critical scrutiny”. Two descriptives prophetic of the culture emerging from victimization by predatory capitalism. Take it like a vitamin to strengthen the body politic for the battles on the horizon.

In a brief aside to add to the nutrition vein: Organic Consumers has mounted a letter writing campaign to Congress
Subsidize Healthy Foods, Not Junk Foods!


#4

“Every victory/
Gonna bring another/
Carry it on/
Carry it on.”
—Ricahrd and Mimi Fariña


#5

This is a wonderful environmental victory, and Canada deserves praise and recognition for doing the right thing. Unfortunately, in the US, pipeline protesters are met with tear gas and water cannons, and then blamed for being ‘violent’. Sane and wise decisions don’t gain much traction here if there are profits to be made.


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“…an additional 236 million tons of carbon pollution each year.” The decision “to Kill Energy East” should have been a no-brainer.and not taken so long to reach.

A blessing, thanks to all who voiced their concerns, fears, and discontent with the pipeline, to the environmentalists/activists that organized protests, to the scientists who compiled the facts, did the research and created a damn good argument against the pipeline, an environmental disaster in the making.


#7

I was just up in the NE section of Canuckdada and am very happy to report that they are farming the wind with gusto.


#8

Ok so we stopped the pipeline from going in and we prohibited the externalized costs of climate pollution. Now what was the purpose of this project and what are the costs of the decision that we made?


#9

Congrats, but wind energy doesn’t produce the products that crude oil is used for. Crude oil is largely not used for electrical generation in Canada, so wind farms are not displacing the demand for crude. Theres a fundamental misunderstanding in world society that petroleum is used for electricity. The reality is that coal and natural gas are the primary fossil fuels used for electrical generation, whereas petroleum is primarily used for transportation fuels, followed by chemical processing and then a very small amount of crude oil actually gets used to generate electricity.


#10

True, but all carbon reduction is of value–especially the coal the wind replaces. The pipeline was to the coast for export. Think Steve Harper as the pipeline advocate, not Justin Trudeau, who may be getting some good things done. The pre-Trudeau wind farms were surely determined to be cost effective as the wind up there is quite dependable. One of the least discussed problems is that “costs” are controlled by our petrodollar economy.


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“One of the least discussed problems is that “costs” are controlled by our petrodollar economy.” Well this is partly true in that wind turbine blades are in fact literally made out of petrochemicals, so the cost of petroleum does affect the cost of wind.


#12

If the crude’s sole purpose was for export then you need to consider what are the potential side affects of not increasing trade revenue from the sale of petroleum. Are the realized benefits of removing CO2 pollution greater than the funds generated from trade of the crude?


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A GREAT Victory yes, but be aware that the Koch Brothers have been heavily invested in Tar Sands and that they have refineries in the gulf- Keystone XL may still be the next big battle-
And please, lets not forget those two 30" lines running under the Straits of Mackinaw that were built during the Eisenhower Administration- Say goodbye to much of the fresh water that two of our Great Lakes provide…


#14

Not in the current Petrodollar climate (e.g. no carbon tax nor significant renewable incentives).


#15

The end of fossil fuels is truly near, but the debate is more political than environmental - do we import from Saudi Arabia and empower them further or do we use what can be produced in Canada. Bear in mind that ships bring crude into Canada’s eastern refineries and oil tankers aren’t the cleanest/ safest mode of transportation either. Everybody is ramping up production but Canada is expected to kill its oil sands operations etc and not sell oil anywhere. Quebec which has the biggest issue with the pipeline is quite happy to take money generated by the oil sands but will not allow the pipeline to go through. What a shame! Bear in mind that its the same Quebec that dumps raw sewage into the St. Lawrence River that raises “environmental” concerns about the pipeline.


#16

How is the end for fossil fuels near, when we do not have substitutes for their products?


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More hybrid & electric vehicles on the road today, public transport buses using cleaner burning natural gas, airlines testing E-fan engine (google that) where like a hybrid car, they will also use some electric energy stored in onboard cells/batteries etc. I drive into the Alberta countryside and I see more and more wind turbines which are harvesting wind power to power houses. Efforts are being made to reduce the consumption of fossil fuels. China also realizes the problem and now often resorts to using odd and even numbered licence plates to reduce vehicular traffic to half (odd numbered plates on the road one day and even numbered plates the next etc). So efforts are underway and they WILL gather momentum.


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You do realize that hybrid cars and natural gas buses are still using fossil fuels?

Additionally my comment applies to more than just transportation, but also the production of petrochemicals and heating. We simply do not have any market scale substitutes for hydrocarbon products like ethylene, xylene, propylene, benzene, polyester, acrylic polymers, toluene, butadiene, vinyl acetate monomer, methyl tertbutyl ether, dimethyl terephthalate, ammonia etc.


#19

Paul. I agree with most of what you wrote. But an effort is underway and in time the transformation will be 50% or 60%.


#20

how much time?