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âŚThe Boeing Company
Lockheed Martin Corporation
Northrop Grumman CorporationâŚ
Raze 'em, waste 'em, seal their fate one way or the other or we all die from war or the environmentâŚ80 years of nothing but toxic, illegal bullshitâŚ
yea, refusing to pay taxes works out grand for your average wage slave in americanâŚ
like⌠how exactly do you propose non-compliance with federal income taxes⌠when those are taken from your meager wage slavery pittance before you ever see it?
do my local state and county taxes also damn me in your eyes, or are those safe?
^ is a very lovely op-ed that youâve linked to. thank you.
The WSPUS has updated their analysis
https://www.wspus.org/2020/01/war-with-iran-teetering-on-the-brink/
"âŚTrumpâs behavior is counterproductive in the extreme. He has cut the ground from under the feet of President Rouhani by exposing his conciliatory approach as futile, thereby strengthening the hardline Islamist forcesâŚ?
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I provided a link in my original post that will answer most of your questions. âWar tax resistanceâ is about refusing to pay federal income taxes in proportion to the amount of federal budget that goes to the military. In general, war tax resistors pay the remaining portion (and local & state taxes) that go to infrastructure (such as it is), safety nets, regulatory enforcement (such as it is), etc., etc. As an organized movement, the participants pay into a defense fund in case anyone is charged with tax evasion. It takes more courage to make this stand than I had when I was a young father of two, thus the mea culpa. Since then, things have turned such that itâs not an income tax issue for me anymore.
I looked into it so long ago that I donât remember how a person subject to automatic withholding pulls it off, but Iâm pretty sure you can find the answer to that if you want.
On another note, my charge that we are all complicit was not meant to be overly personal. Itâs my way of pointing out that the system exerts taxation without representation (why does that sound familiar?). Most of us (on this site, anyway) oppose war, but it goes on and on and on no matter how we vote. Why? Because itâs an imperial plutocracy. We pay for war that enriches the financial elites. I doubt that war tax resistance will ever catch on enough to make a difference.
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All wars are caused by only one thing â EMPIRE and Emperors (like Emperor Trump, that bone-spur coward).
And THIS first and last; effectively-Disguised, truly-Global, corrupted-Crony, Capitalist-fueled, EMPIRE, which is only nominally HQed in, and merely âposesâ as, our formerly âpromisingâ and sometimes progressive country (PKA) America is composed of seven sectors: corporate, financial, militarist, media/propaganda/TVadvertising, CFR âPlot-Tanksâ, and the most dangerously deceitful âRougher-Talkingâ neocon âRâ Vichy Party of the Empire, and the âsmoother-lyingâ neoliberal-con âDâ Vichy Party of the exact same effin EMPIRE.
Thatâs right, âWe got trouble trouble right here in River City, and that start with âTâ, and that rhymes with âEâ, and that stands for EMPIREâ â along with the bone-spur cowardly insane; narcisstic megalomaniac sociopath Emperor Trump â who is so insane an Emperor (âarenât the all?â) that he is worse to women than Roman Emperor Caligula (âyou can grab 'em anytime you want, because youâre the Emperorâ), and like Nero (who ONLY burned down Rome) â whereas, Emperor Trump, wants to unleash nuclear âFire and Furyâ, and who is so insane that he thinks heâs not just the Emperor Of America, that he thinks heâs EMPEROR of the whole effin WORLD (and that he can tell every country in the world what to do, and what not to do, or heâll wipe them all out)!
What? Are we crazy? No but Emperor Trump is so crazy that he has been diagnosed by over 1000 psychiatrists as having every mental condition listed in DSM-5!!
And that is what a good bit of his voters look at: their stocks; and if the stock market looks good they will vote for him again. I know one who did (educated, smart, and owns his business) and has already decided to vote for him again. And he admits Trump is a not fit to serve. Greed is ugly.
The thing is, very few people care. What are any of these comments going to do? Nothing is going to change the opinions of the war-worshiping masses. Nothing is going to stop trigger happy soldiers from pointing their guns. Nothing is going to sate the money hungry war and oil empires. Nothing is going to soften the hearts of politicians.
Literally nothing that anybody reading this will do or provide will make any difference. NONE of our opinions matter to anybody who has power or money.
Greed trumps integrity. Money trumps life. This will literally never change.
The way I see it, the easiest way to counter this is to stop funding the wars. Stop paying taxes altogether. Thatâs what I did. For the last 4 years Iâve earned less than 2000/year so I donât need to file.
If your response is something like: âwell I need money to get byâ, Iâd ask âwould you give up your home, your vehicles, your possessions, your comfort to end war? To clean your hands of innocent blood?â Do you have faith that your life would go on even without money or possessions?
Itâs a harder life, but at least I can truthfully say I did not contribute to war. None (or few) of you can say that.
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Welcome and a nice piece ,what if the truth was even greater than you stated. What if life was eternal and guaranteed . What then of War ?
There is a saying in the cosmos: Eternal Life brings Eternal Peace
If, on the other hand ,you imagine that you have a limited time in which to experience what you desire to experience ,you will give up your peace to acquire it ,or hold onto it if and when you do acquire it.
This is the story of humanity in fifty words and less.Life as an HEB is felt as an eternal reality.
From Conversation With God 4 .Awaken The Species âŚA New and Unexpected Dialogue
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If life is eternal and guaranteed, then there is no morality and no purpose. It does not matter in the slightest that children are murdered, that war is perpetual, that nature is ravaged, that oppression exists. I (or anyone) could steal, cheat, rape, murder, destroy, and pillage with no regard for the pain or suffering it causes others and there would be no consequence- just a temporary cosmic slap on the wrist called âkharmaâ (maybe). It also means others can do those things to me, and there is no reason for me to even try to stop them.
Iâve read the first three conversations with god books, and it is my impression that NDW is a liar who is interested in one thing: money.
I donât imagine that I have a limited time in which to experience what I desire to experience, because I donât believe my life is for my desire.
I accept eternity as an absolute, but I do not believe eternal life is guaranteed. I think many will wake up to eternity in cold, lonely darkness with full knowledge why they are there.
I truly believe NDWâs philosophy is extremely dangerous. People use it to justify any manner of iniquity and selfishness because âlife is eternal and guaranteedâ, so there is no reason to even try to be or do better. There is no consequenceâŚif you do poorly this time around, youâll just do better next time.
If I see one child beating up another child, I step in to stop it. Iâve met many people who would simply say âitâs validâ and walk away. I cannot accept that passive kind of thinking, because it is complicit with needless pain and death; it is no different than complicity with war.
Iâd rather believe this is the only life I get, because then my life has True value, and so does every other life.
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We are doing all these things anyway .All the horrible things we do to each other are beacause we feel we are separate from each other and live a culture story of survival of the so called fittest. Thatâs completely the opposite understanding that I get , as we would value life .Life would become Prime Value .A new cultural story would be told based on Unity and new guiding principles would be put in place . We would start to consciously evolve .
If we really understood our Oneness and our divinity ,that would change who we think we are .It would cause us to treat the world with reverence and actually practice the golden rule.
I see nothing wrong with people making money from trying to provide spiritual nourishment in a world that could do with being steered in a direction that serves us .
We are not on purpose we are adrift at sea and the rocks are approaching !
I do value your honest understanding . But why would you want to lie, cheat ,treat others badly kill and be greedy when you make a choice and come from the higher aspects of divinity.
The universe only asks one question âŚWho Are You !
Do you think the universe cares if humans extinguish themselves . Life doesnât have requirements . Humans will continue to kill each other until they understand it doesnât work anymore . Itâs not who we are .And there is consequences fo actions .The law of cause and effect is known to scientists .
Morality is a made up construct by humans ,functionality makes more sense .
Humans are a very primitive species the toddlers of the universe if you will.
To be or not to be ,said a fine metaphysician.
Interesting times⌠do we wish to be at all.
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instead of advocating that people engage in a felony⌠direct action and a presence in the streets is what would seem to be the call here.
i completely agree with you that our current situation in regards to our ârepresentative democracyâ is that it is anything but⌠however, i do not think that felony tax evasion is a good tactic.
the closest legal action you could take that would mirror your suggestion would be to carry out all your transactions (to the greatest extent possible) in barter or services rendered. so as to remove the taxation middle man from the equation entirely.
it wonât work at the grocer⌠but more than handful of businesses and people are more than willing to accept equivalent value in labor or goods (that they need) when offered.
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Until they make that a felony, too (as in, âYo, people, get your asses into your free-speech zones! Itâs that little fenced-in area over where the media canât see or hear you.â). But seriously, Iâm at a loss regarding tactics and at a near total lack of hope, so Iâll take your opinion to heart.
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Money is a made up construct by humans. With money there is no âonenessâ or unity, only social separateness, distinctions of âworthâ, and disproportionate consumption. Life itself does not need money to exist; itâs a human tool for compulsion and slavery. Iâll believe in NDWâs mission when he only shares his âspiritual nourishmentâ freely, because there is no price for Truth or for a better world, and there is no price on messages from God. He is no different than anybody else in his desire for money or his consumption. What we need is people demonstrating spirituality, BEING the âonenessâ you speak of, because until and unless people start doing it, itâs never going to happen. Money will never unify humanity. Desire will never unify humanity.
I believe morality exists because Truth exists. Morality is a measure of Honesty, of Truth, in different aspects of life and in interactions between lives. It exists independent of what any individual says is moral or true, and it is self-evident to honest eyes because they recognize the consequence of choice, for which morality mandates we must be accountable (Justice). Morality delves deeper than cause and effect, because Justice does not necessitate that we experience the consequences of all of our own actions, yet it does demand we be accountable: consequences reach from one living being to others; it is all rooted in cause and effect, but morality is what compelled you to say âwhy would you want to lie, cheat, treat others badly kill and be greedy when you make a choice and come from the higher aspects of divinity.â Cause and effect happen naturally in this universe as functions of its fundamental forces at play, but morality takes that and adds the element of Will. It is a function of choice and intention, which is unique to life.
Morality can be practiced, experienced, and witnessed as tangibly as playing an instrument. It is rooted in laws of this universe as much as gravity or electromagnetism.
You claim there is no purpose or morality. I wholeheartedly disagree. And yes, I do think God will care tremendously if humans extinguish themselves, and I think God deeply cares every time a species goes extinct by preventable causes. I think God cares for every life, every individual, human or otherwise.
I treat life with reverence because I value life because I know that each individual life is magnificent and utterly irreplaceable.
I would not want to do any of those things to anybody. But the simple reality is as you mention: people do those things; people justify those actions anyway. My comment is that if life is eternal and guaranteed, there is no prevailing consequence, no Justice, so those people who already choose those actions have no reason to stop because their choices do not directly affect them, except for their benefit (as they see it).
Humans continue to kill each other because it does work for their purposes: it makes them money, garners them resources, grants them âauthorityâ. Until there are no more resources to take, no more people who submit, no more value in money, they wonât stop. They aint gonna change their minds because weâre all âoneâ, and they are not going to spontaneously âconsciously evolveâ. They donât care that their choices kill others, destroy nature, pollute the planet, oppress populations. Even while the world is burning around them, there are people who will continue lighting fires.
I donât disagree that all life is truly âoneâ, but I do believe many humans choose to sever their bond to that âonenessâ, which ultimately removes them from it. I think the only guarantee is that soul is eternalâŚbut the direction soul chooses (life or emptiness) is not guaranteed for all, because it is each individualâs choice.
I donât think you and I disagree in principle, because it seems as though we share the same goals for a peaceful, unified world that respects nature and each other. But talking about what âwouldâ happen if only everybody believed this or that is pointless unless there is also demonstrable action. Pragmatically, âbeliefâ is not the way this universe or life works. We each have free will, and many people are exercising their wills to consume, to destroy, to kill, to hate, while some are choosing to nurture, to help, to love, but most are choosing a combination of both loving and hating.
Until we collectively choose better, nothing is going to change. But collective choices begin with individuals. My hope is in the fact that there are so many who are fed up, so many who want something different, and so many who are having this conversation, that I think a âtipping pointâ is plausible. If enough choose better, maybe the rest will follow like an avalanche, and when that happens, the most destructive individuals will lose their power by default, and a new social structure will form that elevates honesty and love (or as you put it âA new cultural story would be told based on Unity and new guiding principles would be put in place. We would start to consciously evolve.â)
(btw, I want to apologize for my comment ânone of you can say thatâ in my first post. I want to remove that sentence, but the edit feature seems to have a time-limit. My comment is elitist. I know weâre all doing the best we can given our circumstances, and within the binding parameters of this societyâŚmost people on this page seem to oppose senseless killing and war. Like many, I am frustrated to no end with the way things seem to be headed, and sometimes I project that frustration unfairly. I am currently in limbo between pessimism and hope, sometimes leaning one way or the other.)
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Very well said. I wanted to quote it all, but thought better of it.
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