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'Illuminating Exchange on Health Care' Reveals Beto Doesn't Think Insurance Industry Motivated by Greed


'Illuminating Exchange on Health Care' Reveals Beto Doesn't Think Insurance Industry Motivated by Greed

Eoin Higgins, staff writer

Beto O'Rourke is attracting criticism from Medicare for All proponents after the 2020 Democratic presidential candidate said he doesn't believe the existence of the for-profit insurance industry is a "function of greed" during a campaign stop in Iowa over the weekend.



From what I have read and have been turned off by he is a demo-lite at a time when we need heavy hitters up to bat. We had enough of demo-lite with Mr. O.



From the article:

“(O’Rourke) doesn’t have a message right now,” said Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough on Monday. “It’s all goop.”

Pot, meet kettle.



Are there any for-profit industries that aren’t motivated by greed? Does Beto really think that altruistically motivated for-profit industries actually exist?



Now we know why the MSM has been giving him all that positive coverage . . .   Hopefully he’ll head back to Texas soon, where he can be the ‘Lesser of Two Evils’ candidate against John Cornyn.



Beto is correct: the American for-profit healthcare system is not a function of greed. It is a function of overweening cupidity.



The MSM also seems to be giving Kamala Harris the soft touch coverage despite her having cut a deal with Steve Mnuchin.



O’Rourke is a Democrat, and is charismatic. That’s enough for 51% of voters today. I think he can win.

Never mind policy, never mind that he says the same things as most Republicans, never mind that he sees no greed in a system that was created purely out of greed— (most people are happy paying thousands of dollars to a corporation for the privilege of having them take their money and hand it over to a “provider” unless the insurance corp decides to just keep it, of course.)

Democrats like Beto, Pelosi, Clinton, Biden and most of the rest of the bloated field of candidates are full blown predatory capitalists. and have convinced a majority of their shit-for-brains supporters that we can’t have socialistic programs here, because that’s not who we are.

Obama tried several times to weaken Social Security. Yet how many millions still worship him as “the best president ever” simply because of his personal charisma, while completely ignoring his warmongering and human rights abuses?

How long do you think it will be before some Democrat like O’Rourke starts extolling the virtues of “privatization”? We will hear that “most people like the security of having their pension invested in markets” and even though every poll shows the opposite, they will be elected. Why?

Because they are charismatic and call themselves Democrats.

Because they are Not Trump.



I don’t want to count chickens before they hatch here but if this is the best the Vichy democrats have got to put Bernie out of the running they might as well give up now. Beto is an unnecessary alternative to substance wrapped in an empty suit.



Just keep talking Beto. Talk yourself right out of the nomination. Not that I think he would win anyway.



Beto can go to hell then.

My fight is with the cowardly democrats in Vermont especially Senator Leahy who sent me a letter making his position clear: In a nut shell it was about incrementalism. I called him on it and promised an open letter to the press about his positions.



There has to be a plan to transition from the current broken system to something else, whether it be Medicare-for-all or Medicare-for-America, or whatever. I’ll have to take closer looks at Jayapal’s Medicare-for-all and DeLauro-Schakowsky’s plan. I don’t see private insurers going away all together. But it makes no sense to have them continue to be the dominant insurance vehicle or even a significant portion of the equation.

The transition has to happen as quickly and smoothly as possible, and that includes assisting the huge numbers of people currently employed in the health insurance industry.

I’ll keep Beto’s comment (and other’s) in mind as I look to see which plan makes the most sense.



I posted this at HufPo but I think it’s appropriate in this thread too:

Chris Hedges - from Why Chris Hedges Thinks The American Empire Has Lost Control…

Let’s be clear. The Democratic Party under Bill Clinton transformed itself into the traditional Republican Party, and the Republican Party moved, was pushed, so far to the right it became insane.

In a interview reported in the Hill, Obama admited:

“… back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican,” he told Noticias Univision 23 in a White House interview.

Beto, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, etal are the same. It’s time the Democratic Party start supporting Democrats rather than Republicans lying about who they are.

This is also why we need a third party - on the Left. We currently have no Party on the Left



Millions of us do and I see them going out in full technicolor! We need to grow a spine as in develop courage and the spirit of the good fight.



Another "Corporate Stooge."

Enough said.



Oh, come on there, Giovanna, Beto’s got a great smile (in still photos anyway, gets a bit cringey in video after a while). And aw-shucken’s, Beto should look good, with his billionaire father-in-law. Several years ago, as city councilman, Beto was promoting a gentrified redo of a fair section of El Paso, for his father-in-law. Would have thrown out tons of folks from their homes - but after all, they were “little” people. That project, for which he helped promote, even had a very cringey set of before and after ads: Before had an old Latino with cowboy hat and words along side saying “old, illiterate, cowboy, dirty, speaks Spanish …” and an after one which had glowing words with two pictures, one of Matthew McConaughey (a Tejas boy) and one of Penelope Cruz (a Spanish actress, you know, from Spain, the Spain across the Atlantic Ocean, that one).
Yup. I’d vote for that smile in a New Yewww-ork Minute.
/s (just in case I wasn’t clear)

Non-sarcasm part: Beto is one of the shotgun blast of “Dems” thrown out by the Rich-and-Powerful Party in order to keep their hand in control. He is anything but a people’s candidate. Same for most of the other ones who are being thrown into the ring for the next run. Most of them are just a people-looking front of constructed talking points with a back end door right into the corporate boardroom.



I voted for Obama in 2008 and after a year gave up on the bullshit “hope & change”. Voted for Jill Stein in 2012 & 2016.



Part of my message to Senator Leahy today was that the working class, after the mediocre performance of Obama, are not going to fall for such a leader again. Why, I asked him, do you think they voted for Trump? They are desperate and offering up a Kamal Harris or a Beto or Biden will not win over these voters. No way. I suggested he and his party are cowards and that it is time for him to step aside as we need courageous action on so many issues of import.



Yeah. Was the “$1.5 Trillion Trump Tax Scam” incremental?"



The people who are happy with their private insurers also work for high-powered unions ( yes, there are union members whose Gold Plated Policies are a very touchy subject ) and in the professional classes who vote and give $$$ to the various nat’l Democratic organizations.
Since the early 1960s, when I started putting out door hangers for Democrats, you’ve had to pay close attention to what Policy from the candidates is. Fancy " double speak " from ConservaDems like The Beto sounds a lot like the " milk and honey " produced by public relations firms, not cows and bees.
Beto is a Texan in the mold of Lloyd Benson, when real progressives would like a version a lot more like Anne Richards, right now.