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In 'Clear Violation of Domestic and International Law,' Trump Bombs Syria


#128

I have no doubt Trump was ordered by the deep state to bomb Syria.


#129

You give the deep state too much credit. Trump also takes much joy in this action. It doesn’t take much to manipulate an empty mind like his.


#130

Not sure why Congress lets any President, let alone an insane one, wag the dog. The height of irresponsibility among out elected officials. Killing people just as a distraction from your own peccadillos.


#131

It’s money, money, money, baby. From the funding of the military to the MIC to the un-American support of a religious group (the Jews) of Israel.
All you have to do to understand this is to ask yourself: What are you getting out of this march across the middle-east. Are you getting safer? Are you getting richer. No, but some are.
America will be the dead body, and greed the sheet pulled over it. G


#132

The democrat war record pales in comparison to republican sponsored wars. Bill Clinton employed troops to help bring the Balkan War to a swift conclusion. As for the homeless, the truth is, all cities are run by business concerns, ie, conservatives who view the general population as consumers, wage-slaves and canon fodder. The homeless are left to fend for themselves because it keeps the rest of the population worried they too might end up on the streets if they speak out against senseless injustice. The ruling class everywhere is conservative. Liberals are tolerated as tools to inflame conservative bigots and racists.


#133

What are you talking about? The left, for one, opposes war as a means of solving these problems if other options are available and if there hasn’t been good damn evidence and reasons presented to support wars like this, and Saddam is a great example of this problem. The left opposed the US supporting Saddam in the 80’s. Providing cover for him at the UN when he gassed his own people, sending him bioweapons, bringing Iraqi scientists to the US to teach them how to make nuclear weapons, increasing funding for him after he gassed his own people. The left didn’t support him, Reagan and the right wing did. When it came time to deal with someone that they had long supported, the left pointed out that it was about oil (which it was), that the war would destabilize the region, was a violation of international law, would cost lots of US lives and the claims were based on lies. There were plenty of reasons to oppose the war that had nothing to do with Saddam, Rumsfeld’s and Reagan’s old buddy. Who was proven correct? The left, which opposed the war, or the right wing? Is Iraq and the region now better off?

When it comes to Assad, are there reasons to oppose this outside of supporting Assad? Of fucking course there is. Who are we supporting in Syria? Why exactly are we getting involved and if he were removed from power, who would fill the vacuum? And what about international law? If we follow the logic used to attack Syria, then which country on Earth wouldn’t be justified in bombing us? The rest of the world sees the US as the greatest threat to world peace, and we clearly are. So, if we followed the logic you seem to have bought in to regarding bombing Syria, couldn’t Syria bomb every weapons manufacturer and profiteer in the US?

And let’s also drop the nonsense about this being about human rights. Who in the hell do we support around the world? How many dictators, coups, anti-democratic regimes do we support and have we supported with horrible human rights records? I mean, right now, our ally Israel is slaughtering innocent citizens and journalists in Gaza, and our politicians and the media just yawn. Our ally, Saudi Arabia, has a horrific human rights record and supports Jihadi groups the world over. When the leaders there recently visited this country, a huge amount of media figures, politicians in both parties (including former Democratic presidents), celebrities and businessmen and businesswomen rubbed shoulders with him. Our ally in South America, Colombia, has a nightmare of a human rights record, and I could go on and on about this. Chomsky and Herman have two volumes devoted to the political economy of human rights, and they demonstrated that there was a high correlation between US support and a country having a very bad human rights record. Who in the world would blame the left, which has no power in the US, for that? Again, are there reasons outside of supporting Assad to oppose this war? Of course, and it isn’t as if the damn left has to answer to anything. We haven’t been supporting dictators, coups, and governments with horrible human rights records. We haven’t been arming and supporting governments with horrible human rights records. We didn’t destabilize the Mideast with the damn war in Iraq, and this situation in Syria isn’t binary. It isn’t us having to pick John Bolton and Trump or Assad. If you want to take the side of Bolton and war profiteers, go ahead, but don’t pretend to have any moral superiority.


#134

Hopefully one or two of those missiles didn’t stray off target and hit the site of the alleged attack last weekend.


#135

Nailed it Joan! well said (I hope he didn’t suffer too much damage when his world-view changed so abruptly)


#136

Once again the US government repeats the disgraceful episode of Colin Powell’s accusation of Iraq’s “chemical weapons caches” while metaphorically waving the (bloody) “…vial of inert powder”) before the American people and the world. Even the NYT headlines this morning 4-14-18 state…"…suspected use of chemical weapons". Yet it stirs up enough reaction from the major media that follow every pantomine of that “Newspaper of Record for the US” and the cockroach mentality of that media seemingly stepping all over themselves to enter the “US Roach Motel” of news.
We (the major global public) could not stop the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003 (even the more infamous one in 1991). What makes us think that we can effect any more of our country’s foreign policies today as then??
We live in an authoritarian corporate fascist country. And, the giveaway has continued for decades after WW2. The shameful duopoly of political power that represents the facade of “democracy” or “human rights” etc. are basically responsible along with the apathy of the American people who are almost totally ignorant of country or global history.


#137

Wow, your twist into utter crazy just occured yet again, by your “Feminism is part of destroying this country” statement.
Care to back that one up???
You continue to astound…


#138

Ever since Bolton told him that when he acts he creates his own reality he hasn’t been the same…


FREE AMERICA

DIRECT DEMOCRACY



#139

And we would sure consider it War if the US were similarly attacked!


#140

Okay Demobrats, don’t just talk about the laws the prictator is breaking – DOOOOO something about it – twist enough republitard arms that they will vote to impeach just to get the armtwisting to STOP!


#141

yes. Putin and his generals claimed there would be retribution. But they left it to us to assume it would be military. The best way to hurt the MIC and its Empire is through its wallet.


#142

There are no good-guys in this conflict save for the Kurdish YPG defending its social revolution in Rojava, and what remains of the Free Syrian Army, who never had a chance against their countries dictator and the Ismamists for whom dictator strategically provided just enough space to kill the most of the FSA becasue they, and not the Islamists, were the real threat to his regime.

So, I really can’t get excited about this latest case of one thug attacking another. My fantasy is for Trump to kill Assad, then, very quickly, someone to kill Trump and Putin.

Spring is finally here and I need to get to work on the garden.

edit: regarding the good guys, a special mention is due the government of Canada which, at least for a while anyway, graciously welcomed many thousands of Syrian refugees when the US banned them entirely.


#143

Go to YouTube and look up the “Ten Easiest Countries to Emigrate To”. I would seriously consider Ecuador and Costa Rica. The great George Carlin saw what was coming and two years before he died he described the U.S. bluntly, as usual - “This country is finished”. I tend to agree. It looks like we are just going through the motions of being a democracy and a republic. A phony Congress that does NOT represent the people (see the Gilens and Page report), a phony democracy that has been hopelessly perverted by election “fixing”, a broken infrastructure, a deeply exploited and polluted environment, an increasingly corporatized media that feeds us endless lies and diversions, and an obscene military budget that represents “hard” foreign policy that fronts for U.S. “interests” with bases in 70% of the world’s countries.
We are just another in a long line of corrupt empires that go back thousands of years. As the people of another crumbling empire, the Romans, said “Sic transit gloria mundi” - So passes the glory of the world.


#144

It’s obvious this was another event designed for maximum media love anyway. Reporting confirms back channels to Russia this week and Syrian forces evacuated all the targets. So, it is the same as last summer—a quick propaganda boost. Assad will go back to murdering thousands conventionally, hawks will be happy with our bomb party, all will be well.


#145

Very well said, Joan.


#146

The wealthy bastards fill our airwaves with porn and matters of genitilia Gay rights Lisbon rights women’s rights abortion trans gender crap. They violently oppose abortion whilst starving and killing millions of children worldwide. However the real issues are systematically glossed over and diverted. Why would sex take priority over hunger, mental illness homelessness or police violence to focus on ducking in the vagina or rectum.


#147

Bullshit. What an idiotic, overly generalized statement that is. Think before you type next time. Or, if you insist that what you claim is the truth then back it up with something substantial. I’d love to see that.