Thought you might like to see Mari’s presentation on the Rights of Nature in Sweden in May at the Earth Rights Conference. Hopefully this YouTube video link will work
Yup - vid works - manythanks !
(Hoping those brainwaves are all in line Rebel)
Note: The Guardian seems to be going Front Page with the climate crisis yesterday & today (Oct 9 & 10).
That is what Greta wants 0 front page - every day ?
If corporations can have rights…then so can Nature.
Actually corporations are just a scrap of paper with a license to do business with no liability. As the saying goes “I’ll believe that corporations are people when Texas executes one.”
Whereas, Nature and ecosystems are living bodies that are interconnected to all life. Nature supports all life on this mud ball. The same can’t be said for Corporations. Can we live without corporations? The answer is obvious. Can humans or any living thing live without the services of Mother Nature? Not for long. We humans are about to find out what happens when we destroy Nature, for we will kill ourselves and our progeny in the process.
I think we ought to take AWAY corporate “rights”, which are a legal fiction, and RECOGNIZE, in law, the Rights of Nature which are obvious.
Not yet, but getting closer…
I have no idea what Greta wants. But I do think it is good that people are waking up and finding their power in numbers in the places where they live all over the world to hopefully protect Mother Earth.
Thank you, Rebel Farmer. One thing I love♡ most about our new home state of PA is Article 1 of our PA Constitution. I’m heartend by so many people from neighboring states filling the PA Supreme Court to observe and witness its procedure and ruling in this case. This has direct relevance to our communities in York and Franklin counties as we fight to stop Transource from installing oversized and unnecessary power lines across our
trout streams, schoolyards, park lands, family farms and residences. Fortunately, as I understand it, and as is happening so often now in late-stage capitalism in America – the Empire without Umpire, the greedy corporation overreached in its slathering grab to secure its proposed grid of routes for its fossil-fuel produced electricity that it not only engaged the legal prowess of such advocacy groups as Public Citizen: it is now being sued by the six power companies whose missions and goals it purported to represent. I just love it when amphibians get the better of reptilian swamp creatures!
I’m using this thread to give you Rights of Nature material and other stuff I think will be of interest to you. You might want to check out “CELDF.org” for more info and to sign up for their news letter. Here is more info on Sweden from them
Thank you Reb !
We just voted today here in Canada - federal election. It got me thinking and discussing socialism on another thread. Tricky topic, as definitions are made up by pretty well everyone. But it seems true socialism wishes to replace capitalism - that’s my take from @alanjjohnston and the link he provided me on the world social party of the United States. That seems to mean communal property big time, i.e., the state owns and controls, and private individuals do not. So it’s more than just corporations affected, its everyone ceding property and the means to living to the state.
Reformism, as I understand it - is what Bernie is all about. Checks and balances on the market, but still capitalism. I’m almost finished Bernie’s book - and that is exactly what he talks. In that vein, rights for the environment would be such a check on corporations and everyone, but still in a capitalist system.
It’s an interesting discussion. In the end, as we have all seen, power and control at the top is always subject to abuse, no matter the system - so far. Alan seems to think real socialism has never been tried - or perhaps implemented. I’m pondering on that.
What we have is runaway markets and capitalism, without checks and balances, or rather the government has been actually captured by business, and any checks and balances that still exist are disregarded or simply removed from the statutes, or rewritten to suit business interests - i.e., neutered.
Since '63, we have been negated as important. Traumatized might not be too strong a word.
We’re losing big time - and the Dragon Lady is at work.
Bernie’s chances - you tell me ?