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In Scathing Senate Testimony, Whistleblower Warns Facebook a Threat to Children and Democracy

Originally published at: In Scathing Senate Testimony, Whistleblower Warns Facebook a Threat to Children and Democracy

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Should Facebook even exist? In its present form, Facebook is a very dangerous company and becoming more so as time passes and the Moscow Mitch obstructionists prevent our laws from keeping pace with technology.

Facebook is a MEDIA company - period. It should be regulated just like the media broadcast networks. PERIOD! As should all the other social media and internet media companies and cable networks (especially Fox).

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Fascism from within is still fascism. Just ask the Italians.

" Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. " - Wikipedia

Hmm, now who and what does this sound like today …

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Whoops, this was supposed to be just a general reply to the article.

Another instance of guilty Russian troll farms? What it seems like. EricDJuly is probably just as much on point (though he doesn’t seem to see Dr Mina’s light on mitigation). Who/what blows this recurring weather vane stuck-age? The beatdowns of Muslims in India (orchestrated on fb) were intolerable, but that didn’t raise the ire that’s here now. Karl Popper would say keep your minds open, but numbers…numbers that are the least biased things around…MSM doesn’t seem much interested in. Numbers from Israel. No…suddenly it’s just that there’s a “whistleblower” out there they can dig. I wonder why.

Beelzebub’s britches! We need more Haugens Heros!! Whistleblowers Unite!
Thank you Frances Haugen!

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Oops button strikes again!

If the ghost of Rachel Carson appeared to a roomful of Exxon investors and explained the whole thing; would they listen, turn turtle, and unite behind her? Would they even put any questions to the ghost? No, they’d simply go pee, in hopes someone would remove the hologram. Zuboff exposed everything fb worth worrying about. Where’s the ongoing MSM discussion bout that?

Indeed. We’re proud of Frances Haugen. Born and raised in Iowa City, and a grad of West HS. MBA from Harvard Business School, in 2011.
She’s one of the good ones.

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i’ve heard the argument that every generation has some new thing that parents freak out about, but the things my parents freaked out about (pot, punk rock, etc) made me objectively happier, whereas we know that social media makes kids anxious and depressed

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Not a rhetorical question: Why does CD’s and other “progressive” web sites use and PROMOTE the use of FB?
Is it a primary source of funds? That seems like a faustian bargain.
What overall good has FB done for the world?

In 2013 The Guardian was accused of being hyperbolic when they wrote:

How algorithms rule the world
The NSA revelations highlight the role sophisticated algorithms play in sifting through masses of data. But more surprising is their widespread use in our everyday lives. So should we be more wary of their power?

Stephen Hawking warned of earth going the way of Venus due to AGW---- people scoffed at that years ago----now it is a serious possibility.

Hawking also warned artificial intelligence (which is dependent on algorithms) could end mankind
See BBC article By Rory Cellan-Jones
Technology correspondent
Published2 December 2014

This is serious. I do not understand why people still use FB given how harmful it is and given it is something that one can choose to use or not (unlike many other monumental things out of our control)

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Good point. I’ve overlooked this aspect. The purpose of such a platform should probably switch more from snark arena to alerting members to evolutionary jumps happening in the context of many debates currently going down. I’ve thought often there should be a committee composed of one left person, one between left & center, one “center” person…and the other half mirroring this right-wise. The member could “weight” whom s/he wants to hear from most in order of preference, but the committee would also have some weight/say (all 7, or all 9, or whatever) regarding what goes in “newsfeed.” To make up for lost dough, they could get help like PBS gets help.

Good point and tragically true.

Opponents of Silent Spring attacked Rachel Carson personally. They accused her of being radical, disloyal, unscientific, and hysterical. In 1962, at the height of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, criticism of the United States struck many as unpatriotic or sympathetic with communism.
Excerpt from article in:
Environment & Society Portal
Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring
The Personal Attacks on Rachel Carson as a Woman Scientist

Fifty Years After Silent Spring, Attacks on Science Continue—
When Silent Spring was published in 1962, author Rachel Carson was subjected to vicious personal assaults that had nothing do with the science or the merits of pesticide use. Those attacks find a troubling parallel today in the campaigns against climate scientists who point to evidence of a rapidly warming world.
BY FRANK GRAHAM, JR. • JUNE 21, 2012

that article is from 2012 but not much has changed.

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There are also social media evaluators and managers that special interests groups at various levels use to police social media. These are privately paid services that also advise governments. Recently in the news from a European country a far-right rapper was convicted on criminal charges for lyrics that were considered hate speech because it was posted on you tube. All social media is being held up for examination, not just facebook.

Here’s the comment I submitted many times today to “these ‘Times’ they are a changin” but slowly.

While the “Times” is censoring my radical, but accurate comment, at least the “Washington Post” has not censored it – and allows free speach:

The real “Outage” is going to be going forward from today on:

Facebook is the greatest ‘Negative Externality Cost’ pumping and dumping scheme in global history. [Full stop]

Unlike the moral and ethical resistance to past ‘Negative Externality Cost’ dumping scams which were designed to provide “Accumulation by Dispossession” [David Harvey] and which always drove the ‘curve of history toward Empire’ — many principled ‘truth tellers’, whistle-blowers, and Anti-War/Anti-Empire; authors, academics, scientists, and “democracy-thinkers”, from; J Robert Oppenheimer, Norbert Wiener, Albert Einstein, Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Joseph Stiglitz, Henry Wallace, Earl Shorris, Cornel West, and many thousand of other moral and ethical beacons have lead the path forward to “bending the curve of history away from Empire”.

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Whistleblowers typically are the ones who land in jail or on the run, while those they expose walk away scot-free.

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Thanks for those thoughts. I once fancied myself monitoring Limbaugh. I remember clearly him saying if humans tried to kill nature in ernest, they couldn’t. The experts and
non-experts these days are facing some tough questions. Get this, I’ve seen an article [I think there might be more than one] at Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists critical of a lab origin theory for SARS-2, and also a couple articles there saying the idea should be looked into. As a group they don’t take any absolutist position. Likewise there are super articulate positions against mandates on the part of people for vaccines, but it’s risky (on our end) to even talk about the sociological/scientific/logical aspects of the mandates, let alone the numbers coming out of Israel. Zuboff has talked about the totalitarian aspects of social media. Obviously, this kind of media cannot even begin to handle difficult questions coming out of the realm of straight science. What FB creates is more like a Girardian [René Girard] “war of all against all.” It’s not on the basis of they are too rich or they are too poor; it’s based on their-ideas-are-wrong. So, to me it makes things somewhat different than in Marx’s time.

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To continue…I think the contest is more “intellectual” these days in this electronic social media milieu. More about ideas (and yes the right is very serious about considering itself intellectual, or at least tops smarts/savy-wise). At any rate, when one loses faith that others will be rational, it’s like creating an anarchic/war zone where you can transship dope…sell stuff. All of this I guess is why the committee idea popped into my head a while back.

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[The software here has gotten more confusing since I’ve been away. First it told me my above post was too old to edit. Then it went ahead and added the edit anyway. But I’ll leave this re-draft…it might be a little clearer]

To make things even more complicated it’s not a classic Girardian scenario. It’s really not so much (IMO) that many are modelling Trump, or OTOH that many are modelling
R Wolff…and that there’s mutual envy amongst respective members of both camps on both ends. It’s a special case where people are modelling no-modelling. Each person strikes out on her/his own, and is THE authority (I am privy to THE WISDOM, and I will dispense it on social media). Girard actually mentioned this [not in connection with social media] in his CBC interview with David Cayley.

This whole fiasco is a setup and a trap on all of YOU, the people, they want you SILENCED! This is their attempt to frighten all of you from free speech. Mark Zuckerberg is in on this, both the Dems and Repubs are together on this AGAINST YOU!, basically the New World Order is on this. There is only ONE way to verify the age of a computer user, and what form do you think that is? This is an evil plot to know exactly WHO is pecking away on your keyboard, it’s more about monitoring every single one of you. If you’re falling for this plot then you will happily give away more of your rights, privacy, and liberty. They’re going to pass a law making video camera, face recognition, and other ID methods REQUIRED in order to use Social Media, it’s also an attempt to legally put GAB.COM out of business before they become too popular.

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