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Irish Women Turn Out in Droves to Repeal Constitutional Ban on Abortion


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Irish Women Turn Out in Droves to Repeal Constitutional Ban on Abortion

Jessica Corbett, staff writer

Ireland expected the higher-than-usual voter turnout to continue into the evening on Friday as Irish citizens headed to ballot boxes in droves and women living abroad returned to their home country to weigh in on a measure that would repeal the Eight Amendement of the Irish Constitution, which bans abortion unless a pregnant woman's life is at risk.


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Just when women in Ireland are finally achieving full autonomy over their own bodies, women in the US are facing the threat of having it snatched away by “religious” bullies and misogynists.


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Today, Ireland will decide if it will become a democracy or remain a Church-State.

Notice that over these years of resistance and clinging to male-supremacist
teachings, the Catholic Church in Ireland has collapsed.

By the late 1970’s, democracy in the US was also having this same effect where
The Catholic Church wrote off the US, Canada and Western European countries …
and turned to seeking its fortunes in China and Africa.

The fetus and the pregnant female, of course, are not equals.

The amendment was also intended to protect the life of the pregnant female,
but that part of the deal has been betrayed over and again.

Many pregnant women will become suicidal if they cannot secure an abortion,
yet the amendment is often interpreted to deny her an abortion.

And the amendment is so restrictive that it makes no exceptions for rape or incest.

For the sake of women all over the world, I very much hope this REPEAL happens today.


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MM –

What you are saying is that the loss of women’s lives means
nothing to you –

Nor their lives as Mothers to other children –
and often caretakers of parents.

Nor as a valuable asset/resource in the world we live it –

The Catholic Church has a long history of genocide, oppression of women,
letting children starve in fact in Ireland, sexual repression of members,
forcing pregnancies on families –

not to mention its hateful teachings about Jews which resulted in the
German Holocaust –

It’s genocide against the NATIVE people here it labeled “pagans … only fit
to be fed to the dogs.”

And against the Africans enslaved here and around the world.

“Crusades, Inquisitions, Burnings at the Stake” – a shameful record of murder
and mayhem by the church which refuses to become a democracy still.


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That would require thoughts in your head, of which there is never any evidence.


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TOM –

When you write something, you reveal who you are –
That’s what I am addressing.

How do you come to assess such a low value on the lives of living women?

Have you no close relationships with women –
as Mothers, as Aunts, as daughters, as Lovers, as friends?

How do you judge the harm done to our world by the oppression of women
and the barring of them from education and the professions and the political
arena for so long?

Calling abortion “murder” is one of the clearest signs of religious fanaticism.

If you’ve never been pregnant, what kind of an understanding of abortion can
you have of being pregnant or delivering a child and being responsible for a
child to speak on it?

How convenient is it for you to have women set aside in the world, oppressed?

Your post is the one filled with misogynist views and filled with hatred for women
very reminiscent of “White supremacists.”

Living women have regularly been murdered under the system of patriarchy, in
its exploitation of them – reducing their higher numbers of majority now in some
areas to 50% and sometimes even less where male-supremacist prejudices exist.

The majority of abortions occur in the very early weeks of a pregnancy.

YET, you seem to hold those abortions of embryos above the tens and tens and tens
of millions of actual living human beings which our government has wiped out over
decades and decades of wars, followed by more wars.

There just aren’t words to describe people who condone that level of murder of living
human beings with existing lives.

There is a universal spirituality – it doesn’t apply to just one gender as obviously you’ve
been taught.

And you have nothing to say of the Church’s oppression of women, murder of women …
and its many other enemies – ?

Denial will no longer work.


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MM, as you and I are both men, why don’t we leave the decision to abort to the women? THEY, not you or I, are the experts. If a pregnant woman is carrying your offspring, she may include you in making that decision, but she is in no way obliged to do as you wish or say.

In my 80 years, I have had pleasant relationships with many female friends, a few partners and one spouse, and I know with certainty that they are quite capable of making the decision that is right for them. There is no need for us to start lecturing, or worse, hectoring them.

In your comment, you made reference to Unborn Babies, a euphemism if ever there is one. I’m sure you meant the medically correct term fetuses. Funny, many pro-life supporters make that error (or play that game).


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…which is at war in at least seven countries that we know of, and is threatening at least two more—ONE OF WHICH IS A NUCLEAR POWER—so apparently it’s only concerned with fetuses. After you’re born, you’re fair game for anything from a drone strike to full-blown “shock and awe.”

The ripe stink of hypocrisy is overwhelming.


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“If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.”
–Florynce Kennedy


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You said 50,000 “murdered human beings”? You mean aborted fetuses? Wow! That would be 50,000 LESS redundant human beings added to a seriously overcrowded planet Earth! We need to help planet Earth build a stronger immune defense from such a toxic consumer plague (I agree with you, Sir David Attenborough).

Currently, a species of 7.5 billion human beings demands the violent and systematic slaughter of up to (at least so far) 60 BILLION “food” animals (birds and mammals) and trillions of sea life. In addition, wild animals (wildlife) everywhere are under constant attack by hunters, “big game” and trophy hunters, and wildlife “management” calling for constant “culling.” Wild animals everywhere are under constant conflict and pressure from constant, unchecked human population growth.

Women (and men) should have free or open access to available birth control by all methods, including access to safe, legal abortion. For the sake of all women, for the sake of all animals, for the sake of the planet Earth.


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“Pro-life” administration? -----Trump’s wildlife thrill-killers are at it again. This week they launched a new effort to end Obama-era rules in Alaska that banned trophy hunters from gunning down wolf pups in their dens and baiting bears so they can be shot.

The new rule will turn places like Denali National Park and Preserve into a killing field. It’s an awful expansion of the kind of trophy hunts Trump implemented in Alaska a few days after he took office. Once again the Center for Biological Diversity will fight back.

“Cruel and harmful hunting methods like killing bear cubs and their mothers near dens have no place in our national reserves,” said the Center’s Collette Adkins.


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Viagra is the male sacrament.


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Guild, agreed!

2manyhumans1m MMinLamesa
“Pro-life” administration? -----Trump’s wildlife thrill-killers are at it again. This week they launched a new effort to end Obama-era rules in Alaska that banned trophy hunters from gunning down wolf pups in their dens and baiting bears so they can be shot.

The new rule will turn places like Denali National Park and Preserve into a killing field. It’s an awful expansion of the kind of trophy hunts Trump implemented in Alaska a few days after he took office. Once again the Center for Biological Diversity will fight back.

“Cruel and harmful hunting methods like killing bear cubs and their mothers near dens have no place in our national reserves,” said the Center’s Collette Adkins.


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The matter of abortion still is and remains to be, none of your business. None. of. Your. Business.
Do not respond with buy bull quotes to me either…


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I never thought that a fetus was a person---- because a forming fetus is a mass of cells and people don’t become upset about replicating cells with cancer. Men and women should both have control over their own bodies. A fetus is not a person, and neither is a sperm…however, as many seem to want to control women’s lives…did the death of Savita not matter???

Women and men are supposed to have equal protection of the laws…but if men can control women— then I suppose turnabout is fair play. So, don’t pass out guys, but WHAT IF ( hypothetically… sperm were considered human, because they have heads, sometimes really big ones----and they are very competitive, and they race for the price and only ONE wins…hmmm----but what would you have the law be , if some decided that sperm were as human as fetuses? Would people be arrested for cannibalizing sperm? Would young boys be arrested for sperm on the sheets?Would a do it yourself job be grounds for prison? Yes, I know this is all a ridiculous argument--------but for equal treatment under the law, both actions are making a government having control over a body____YOURS!. I really believe what a woman decides is HER decision- and in a democratic republic that has to be true.
For those who are concerned about dead babies and children-------read up on Yemen and the fight like hell for them.


#23

The Irish are flying home to vote while the USA can’t even get 90 million voters to walk, bicycle or drive a few blocks to cast a ballot. A lesson in enthusiasm maybe?


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One more time, abortion really, really is none of your business.
Not your body, situation or life.
Yes, I am telling you, as a man, you need to mind your own family business.
Your attempt at making abortion, with your comparison of the Jews and the holocaust is ridiculous and rather sloppy.
Evil? Sick? Twisted? Of the five fingers in your hand, with your pointer finger pointing at me, there are four fingers pointing back at you.


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If all conceptions were “Immaculate”, abortions wouldn’t be necessary.


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Nah, just an allusion to Blessed Virgins everywhere. If you are as big a Christian as you’d like us to believe, start emulating Angelina Jolie and stop trying to enforce your life is sacred BS on others.


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“only 1 Blessed Mary”,
only Catholics use this terminology, “Blessed Mary, Ever Virgin”

“never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or
sought thy intercession was left unaided”

Tell me where in the hate filled, self aggrandizing, spewing of your twisted mind
is the Spirit of our Blessed Mary shown to your fellow Humanity.

Really putting it out there aren’t you.
How Christ like in your Words and Actions.

I do not engage others to follow these beliefs.
All are Free to find their Way through their own Epistemology of Truths.
All Paths are Unique, even as the destination is the same.

But you, you follow the way of the Blessed Mary and her Sacrificial Son
Where in your actions and words do we find Care and Love

Throwing stones as fast as you can find them

Lord make me an instrument of your Peace
Where there is Hatred let me sow Love