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It Took Obama More Than Two Years To Kill This Many Civilians. It Took Trump Less Than Six Months


#1

It Took Obama More Than Two Years To Kill This Many Civilians. It Took Trump Less Than Six Months.

Andrea Germanos, staff writer

A new investigation shows that President Donald Trump's bombing campaign against ISIS (the Islamic State) over several months has already led to nearly as many civilian deaths as those overseen by the Obama White House over several years.


#2

"The bottom line is more civilians are dying."


#3

Military budget increases,
Social safety net cuts,
More desperate enlistees,
To die in some new war.
President Pig in a wig's new renewed war.
Trump MUST be impeached for honor and safety sake.


#4

A real peacenik that Trump! Remember those arguments coming from the alt-left on this forum?

Calling for more torture, worse torture, and to make it legal was their first clue that he would be a force for peace in the world!

Go figure.


#5

"It's sad, but we had to annihilate that country to protect it from the evils of ISIS." (A technique we learned in Vietnam.)
But $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
And that's what counts, doesn't it?
;-})


#6

Shouldn't you be thankful to those people for helping to defeat Hillary Clinton who would have got us into a nuclear war with Russia according to them? Billions of civilians would have been killed if they were right.


#7

Facts for the staff at Commondreams to look into:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/26/the-year-in-drones-2016/

On July 1, 2016, the Obama Administration finally released drone strike statistics compiled by the Director of National Intelligence. The figures purport to give the number of the Obama Administration’s drone strikes and the number of people killed from the time Obama entered office through December 31, 2015.

Up until the July 1 release, the Obama Administration had been coy about the number of people US drones have killed. The Administration refused repeatedly to release figures, while soothing the public with assurances that drones are “precision” weapons and that the number of civilian deaths has been very low.

There are serious problems with the DNI data.

The DNI figures leave out killings in “areas of active hostilities”: Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria—an enormous omission.


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https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/01/26/double-standards-where-were-the-liberal-protestors-during-obamas-wars/

Double Standards: Where Were the Liberal Protestors During Obama’s Wars?

The election of Donald Trump has sent millions of people pouring out onto the streets to protest a man they think is a racist, misogynist, xenophobic bully who will destroy US democracy in his quest to establish himself as supreme fascist ruler of the country.

Maybe they’re right. Maybe Trump is a fascist who will destroy America. But where were these people when Obama was bombing wedding parties in Kandahar, or training jihadist militants to fight in Syria, or abetting NATO’s destructive onslaught on Libya, or plunging Ukraine into fratricidal warfare, or collecting the phone records of innocent Americans, or deporting hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers, or force-feeding prisoners at Gitmo, or providing bombs and aircraft to the Saudis to continue their genocidal war against Yemen?

Where were they?

They were asleep, weren’t they? Because liberals always sleep when their man is in office, particularly if their man is a smooth-talking cosmopolitan snake-charmer like Obama who croons about personal freedom and democracy while unleashing the most unspeakable violence on civilians across the Middle East and Central Asia.

The United States has been at war for eight straight years under Obama, and during that time, there hasn’t been one sizable antiwar march, demonstration or protest. Nothing. No one seems to care when an articulate bi-racial mandarin kills mostly people of color, but when a brash and outspoken real estate magnate takes over the reigns of power, then ‘watch out’ because here come the protestors, all three million of them!

Can we agree that there is at least the appearance of hypocrisy here?

Indeed. Analyst Jon Reynolds summed it up perfectly over at the Black Agenda Report. He said:

“If Hillary had won, the drone strikes would have continued. The wars would have continued. The spying would continue. Whistleblowers would continue being prosecuted and hunted down. And minorities would continue bearing the brunt of these policies, both in the US and across the world. The difference is that in such a scenario, Democrats, if the last eight years are any indication, would remain silent — as they did under Obama — offering bare minimum concern and vilifying anyone attacking their beloved president as some sort of hater. Cities across the US would remain free of protests, and for another 4-8 years, Democrats would continue doing absolutely nothing to end the same horrifying policies now promoted by a Republican.” (“Delusions Shattered“, Jon Reynolds, The Black Agenda Report)


#9

You are correct! Murder is murder!


#10

So Obama is but one-fourth the murderer that Trump is.


#11

Hey, you can't blame drumpf. After all, he delegated all authority to the military. His hands are "clean." The whole drumpf administration is the dregs of humanity and suffering from intellectual challenges.


#12

That you weren't aware of the people objecting doesn't mean that they don't exist. Lots of people made a lot of fuss about all the civilians being killed by drones and bombs under Obama, but the MSM didn't think you would be interested so they didn't mention it.


#13

Two war criminal sick joke candidates;each evil and deadly! Now one is the fraud prez, and insane to boot! The imperialist amerikan empire Must end! World Peace, and saving Mother Earth are in the balance!


#14

And secy of defense, Mad-Dog Hard-Core Marine Mattis is lovin' the carnage. Meanwhile, Billionaire Tillerman is too busy working on getting the sanctions against Russia dropped while brokering more oil/gas deals worldwide. It's all about the money....


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There is no such thing as a just war, especially when so many innocent children, women and civilians are wounded, dislocated and killed each month: The traumatized survivors will never forget our brutal drone attacks, and there will be blowback for decades if not centuries. There is no military solution to terror on top of terror. This just makes everything much worse and we end up with a Middle East filled with civil wars, failed states, millions of homeless refugees, millions of wounded and disabled, severe droughts and floods, filthy water, destroyed cities, ruined infrastructure, no hospitals and schools, drugs, corruption and unending chaos.
The survivors will of course become the next terror radicals and recruits. War is not the road to peace on earth. $Trillions have been wasted, and now we are about to double down? Isn't it time to bring our troops home to their families where they belong? We will never be able to police the world for oil. We cannot even police our own country, even with the largest mass incarceration in the world. Would the President be willing to send his sons to fight for oil and corporate profits? They will avoid military service just like their dad, and now more poor kids, desperate for a job and brainwashed about their purpose, will continue to be sacrificed to Wall Street's greed. When will we ever learn? When will this ever end?


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"War is TERRORISM with a big budget!" of course terrorist imperialist amerika has the world's biggest budget for slaughter for the empire!


#17

Once again, why are we killing so many men women and children?


#18

Because we are exceptional(ly deranged)


#19

Because it's one big money game, and that's how the MIC wins, killing innocents to keep the 1% happy.


#20

What a sick headline. Does this make Obama deserving of his Nobel Peace Prize.? I guess so, because he's a good guy, certainly better than Trump. The numbers prove it!

Unbelievable! Both are in the same club: the War Criminals Club.