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It's Messed Up for Democrats to Use the No-Fly List to Push for Gun Laws


It's Messed Up for Democrats to Use the No-Fly List to Push for Gun Laws

Trevor Timm

In the wake of yet another mass shooting in the US, Republicans managed to vote down a bill that would bar people on the no-fly list from buying guns.


Nothing sells guns better than government crackdowns.


Nothing more dangerous than politicians who propose legislation out of the need to claim they are doing something. We are still paying, dearly, for legislation passed in the wake of 9/11.


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What's most sickening is that this author sees the no-fly list as unconstitutional, although I don't think the Constitution makes any explicit reference to types of transportation or even freedom of movement, yet he can't see that "gun control legislation" is an explicit violation of the Constitution.

It's amazing (horrifying, too, especially in the case of soi-disant "constitutional scholars" and "legal analysts"), the number of people whose thinking is broken by their unexamined ideology.


It is Paul Ryan who is "messed up."


Appears Paul Ryan forgot to shave . . . likely because he is spending so much time with his children.


A little gun control here, a little gun control there amidst all the gun and weapon sales to other countries does not solve anything in the end. Stop the wars first and stop making insane money from all those weapon sales.


Amendment V ". . .nor shall any person . . . be deprived of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law;" Some might think the right to travel is included in the idea incapsulated in the word, 'liberty.'
Additionally, as the US is a common law nation, and the US Supreme Court does determine law, in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement [travel] as a fundamental Constitutional right.


America desperately needs gun laws alright, but the elephant in the room that is never discussed by either party is the gun laws of the murderous MIC, because they are guilty of premeditated murders of so many innocent men, women and children around the world! What has happened in Los Angeles while horrible, is miniscule compared to what the US regime has and is doing around the world in order to sustain its empire!


Fairy nuff! I happily stand corrected on that point.


Nope. There is no individual right to own guns in the 2nd Amendment. That is something invented in the last generation by the NRA and only read into the Constitution by SCOTUS in 2009.

What is in the Constitution is the right of the states (that is the "people") to have militias.

So gun control legislation is constitutional. But as 4thefuture points out, the federal government having a list of those who have not been convicted of anything but they suspect of possible future crimes and then enforcing that they can't travel is clearly a violation of our civil rights.


Don't push that crap. Read the founders' correspondence. Read Madison's minutes of the discussions at the hijacked Convention. The facts are plain, and they don't support your idea.