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Jettisoning 'Best Available Science,' Trump Admin. Tosses Out Federal Protections for Yellowstone's Grizzlies


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Jettisoning 'Best Available Science,' Trump Admin. Tosses Out Federal Protections for Yellowstone's Grizzlies

Andrea Germanos, staff writer

The Trump administration announced Thursday that the Yellowstone grizzly bear population is losing its endangered species protections—a decision conservation groups say is "flawed and premature" and could make the iconic species the target of trophy hunters.


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The devil issues yet another diabolical, destructive, and devastating (to life) edict. He's a dick, he's a dick, he's a dick-dick-dick. Less life for his trash tribe trumpeteers to shoot and kill then mount on their walls. They, the Trump Trash Tribe will themselves become endangered and will have little to no protection from the onslaught caused by their crimes against humanity, the environment, and all life.


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We the People should toss out Federal protections on So-called Presidents.


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Unfortunately like defenseless animals in the face of hunters, the people don't really have much to say about what the predatory elite want.


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Perhaps MCH, We the People of the United States of America must take a lesson from our French neighbors across the pond, and like they did in 1789, we must alter the course of modern history and tear down this Oligarchy and replace it with a representative Democracy. A real Democracy unlike the fake one that exists now.

There will be blood, sweat, and tears to be assured, however, our children and theirs, will have a world worth living in.

I know, you're thinking, what a dreamer this guy is.

No, I am just an American, who believes in People, not Money, like those predatory elites you mentioned.


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The hard part of this revolution will be changing people's minds and hearts. How do we get a significant percentage of those people who have been brainwashed to hate environmentalists, socialism, other races, etc. to support something like keeping the grizzly bear on the Endangered Species List?


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One way, which I am not curious to find out is, when

TrumpDon'tCare

becomes law, people will start dying, then every news outlet on Earth will be reporting what is happening. So, it is assured many in that segment will be dying as well.

Then, you will see dissension in those ranks.


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The only thing undeserving of protection under the Endangered Species law, are Corrupt Politicians.


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Those people need to be educated and taught that wilderness is a microcosm of the world. Whatever happens in your "pristine" wilderness, will happen to you in due time.

We are all connected in the web of life. The light of life permeates all living things, and you extinguish the light of one species : you darken the light, and the planet, for all those remaining.

They go extinct--so do we.


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"Are people more important than the grizzly bear? Only from the point of view of some people." - Edward Abbey

And a Grizzly Protection Action Timeline. This is a forever battle in the West.

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/species/mammals/grizzly_bear/action_timeline.html


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But what if the people who are so hostile to environment don't believe in or care about wilderness? How can we have an effect on this kind of ignorance which is blended with anger and hatred?


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Uday and Kusay Trump will be fondling their guns in anticipation.


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A most excellent question. My secret weapon with the right (which is over 50% filled with Evangelical Christians) is the Christian Bible. Just like a gun owner, they are more likely to get shot and die, just by owning it. And many can be disarmed and that gun then used on them (how many times with kops, and they are trained in self-defense--but plenty have grabbed their guns.)

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

Dominion, from which we get "dominate" means sovereignty, the responsibility to rule. Ruling over the earth does not mean destroying it. And in destroying Wilderness, you are destroying our very last refuge, the very remnant of Heaven itself.

God left a rainbow to say he would never destroy land earth again.

So would he approve of us destroying those last remnants of heaven, where animals once freely roamed, and we human were given responsibility to care for the Earth, the only living planet we have, the greatest drift your God ever gave you here on Earth?

Then sit and listen to them try to Christian-splain their way out of a direct YES or NO.
If you wa


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If you think the brainwashing is bad now, just wait 'til DeVos has destroyed what's left of our public schools.  Profiteering by unaccountable private schools is a minor issue compared to the dumbing-down of the next generation by succumbing its members to the proselytization and anti-science "education" that right-wing religious "schools" benefiting from her voucher schemes will provide.

Just Say NO!! to Vouchers!!!

IIRC, "Dominion" is a mis-translation of the original word "Stewardship", which means to have responsibility to Care For and Preserve that of which you are the Steward – whether beasts, lands, forests, fellow men or even finances. This mis-translation – probably deliberate, to give early religious leaders more favor with the Fat Cats of their day – has been the source of much grief for the past fifteen or sixteen hundred years.  This use of an in­correct interpretation of religious teachings to support their world-view of Exploitation of Everything is one of the most dangerous aspects of right-wing "Christian" nut-cases like DeVos.

Just in case you missed my earlier post of this astute observation by noted physicist Steven Weinberg, I'll re­peat it here.  "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.  But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."


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Unfortunately, thanks to an equally corrupt MSM and to corrupt election financing laws – exacerbated a few years ago by SCOTUS' infamous 'Citizens United' decision – politicians are not endangered at all. There are several hundred of them just in Washington, living the high life at our expense and getting fatter and wealthier every day.  Add those at the State and Local level, and they number in the tens of thousands.


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Agree 100% with you on it all, but did not want to belabor that fact of "stewardship vs dominion". I am wordy enough as is.
-- thanks.

I should have said "charge" regardless of wording, it "God" "charged" man with the responsibility of earth's welfare, quite obviously.

A responsible farmer does not deplete her soil. A competent fisher does not over-catch, a competent forest ranger does not set fire to a forest etc. I think that is all rather evident in any near accurate translation.

I have no doubt The entire Christian Bible is so highly patriarchal in mis-translations, but highly patriarchal anyway if correctly translated.

Ancient Hebrews wer polytheistic -- not just Yahweh, and Yahweh had wives, one being Asherah. Hundreds of female fertility goddesses figurines were found having been dated from the first half of first millennium BCE, mostly in Jerusalem (Coogan, Michael. God and Sex. p 166). so that all went away with the insistence of "one male god."

So this is essentially misogyny, throwing women out of the big picture, having them as possessions, and i.e. God telling men to slit the pregnant women's bellies to abort the babies of the enemy--so yes, even abortion was God inspired back in the day, along with stoning, endless wars etc.

Just another issue that anti-abortion "Christians" have no christian biblical theological feet on which to stand. Saving life really cannot be used as biblical, because back in the day they did not believe the unborn child was an independent, living human being. Ancient laws illustrate this very clearly.

But if you say --"well, modern science has changed our view of the Biblical interpretations"

Do they also believe that adulterers should be stoned to death? That wearing two different fabrics simultaneously is a sin, and on, and on, and on. Then those are just cherry picking.

My most favorite denial to such statements is commonly, "well the Bible says what the Bible says." Circular reasoning going nowhere if there ever was, total rejection of logic.

But a wonderfully rich text we have, full of differing versions of the same stories over and over from different sources, and different writer's styles etc. rather obviously. And completely florescent contradictions plentiful, i.e. differing versions of the big 10 commandments, Jesus' life etc.

Speaking of misogyny and tossing females out of the big picture, does that remind us of anyone today?