it is WAY past time for the United States to cut it’s losses and draining of it’s treasure in the futile continuing occupation and war in Afghanistan, as well as Iraq. Whenever we eventually leave, the Taliban and other similar groups WILL come in and take over. We do not have the manpower, will, money or the right to totally defeat them. As I have said many times, you can’t impose Western ideals and democracy on people who are not willing or ready to accept it. As other reports have revealed, our real purpose in the region is to try and control future development of mineral resources there for our selfish benefit, which we have no right to do. We the people and voters of the United States must insist that it is time to GET OUT! NOW! With all deliberate speed, before we find ourselves watching the last Americans being evacuated from the roof of the American Embassy, like we did in Vietnam.
US presence is the reason why the taliban are killing civilians and prolonging the war in Afghanistan. The solution requires the US departure and cutting off Pakistan support for Taliban. Neighboring countries minus Pakistan have to help bring peace to the longest war in history.
The US has not learned the lesson of non-interference because it’s original interference was the invasion and subsequent colonization of other people’s lands–indigenous lands-- upon which it erected its racist monstrosity. It has yet to own its history let alone apologize and atone for it.
FYI, the US does not have desire to defeat the Taliban, if it did the US would punish Pakistan for exporting terror into Afghanistan. Both the Taliban and ISIS are active in Afghanistan because Pakistan allows them unhindered cross border movement and military support.
Both Russia and India as well as Iran and China can help transition to peace in Afghanistan and without their involvement this quagmire will continue indefinitely.
Think of where Afghanistan would be today had the US never invaded Afghanistan, but instead had treated the events of Sept 11, properly, as a crime, not an “attack”. They would have worked with the Taliban government (distasteful, but sometimes one has to do such things) and provided them the humanitarian aid they wanted in return for helping apprehend the handful of Sept 11 plotters. Case closed, and eventually the Taliban would have declined or incrementally reformed with the passage of time.
No hindsight was involved; only lots of "told-you-so"s. What I wrote above is what we on the left were calling for from the beginning - between Sept 12, 2001 and October 7, 2001…
But maybe you are too young to remember…
“More civilians were killed last year in Afghanistan, compared with the last year of Obama’s tenure,” observes Truthdig’s Sonali Kolhatkar. "
Sadly this is America. The land where people boast about their president that he killed X numbers of civilians more or less then the last. Sadly you can go back and back again to each past president and see the damage done. Some of it and there is a lot of it, was recognized at the time to be illegal acts done dirt cheap. The action of robbers and thieves. https://www.globalresearch.ca/fifteen-years-after-the-invasion-of-iraq-the-anglo-american-oil-giants-start-to-flaunt-the-spoils-of-imperial-conquest/5627450
This is America. It is what Americans do. Look in the mirror and if you do not like what you see part your hair on the other side.
I guess you forgot the part where Bush/Cheney started the whole shit show in Afghanistan in the first place.
And as far as Trump is concerned I guess you forgot the part where Trump criticized the USA being in Afghanistan. Once again Trump is a fucking liar. Here is an example of one of his tweets:
Why are we continuing to train these Afghanis who then shoot our soldiers in the back? Afghanistan is a complete waste. Time to come home!
And I can’t stand either Democrats or Republicans. They are both wholly owned and controlled by the military industrial complex who want endless wars for endless profits.
Yes - as noted above - as progressive voices warned after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, invading Afghanistan to go after Al Qaeda and - while we were at it - overthrow the Taliban government that was horribly oppressing its people…was a horrible and predictable and predicted mistake.
But let’s go back a little further. Lest we forget - the Taliban and Al Qaeda are Frankenstein monsters of U.S. aid.
During the last stages of the Cold War, the U.S. supported and, arguably, created, the forces that turned into the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
The U.S. gave money to ‘holy warriors’ in Afghanistan - who opposed Afghanistan’s military, Marxist, Soviet-supported regime. This support was a conscious and deliberate effort to trigger a Soviet invasion; a Soviet invasion that would be - as Democratic President Carter’s security advisor later said - their Vietnam.
And indeed it was their Vietnam. Prob’ was - the decade invasion that tore apart Afghanistan also strengthened the ‘holy warriors’ that oppressed Afghanistan when the S.U. pulled out, and the spin-off terrorists, such as Osama Bin Laden that became Al Qaeda.
In the view of U.S. Cold Warriors, har-de-har-har, the Soviet Empire was hastened to its demise by a war inflicting fantastical civilian casualties in Afghanistan and the S.U. and terrible suffering after. And those ‘freedom fighters’ that crushed the Afghanistan people and became the Al Qaeda and Isis of today?..
…has been a great job creator for the U.S. military and small business around the world - just look at the coffin and grave memorial makers we’ve put to work. Only consider the widower pensions that help stimulate the U.S. economy - to say nothing of the mental health services, the physical rehab, the prosthetics industry!
The Us interventions in Afghanistan began with Jimmy Carter on the advice of Brezinski and Kissinger.
Hey! Hows that endless war going?
All we have been saying: Is give peace a chance…
For those who don’t want to read the entire above-linked TomDispatch piece, important as it is:
Regarding U.S. covert funding of the Taliban and future Al Qaeda to engage in proxy war against the pro-Soviet Afghani government - an action proponents anticipated would lead to a Soviet invasion (from Chalmers Johnson’s piece, following Tom’s 5 paragraph intro in above link):
"[T]he Soviet invasion of Afghanistan on Christmas Eve 1979 was deliberately provoked by the United States. In his memoir published in 1996, the former CIA director Robert Gates made it clear that the American intelligence services began to aid the mujahidin guerrillas not after the Soviet invasion, but six months before it. In an interview two years later with Le Nouvel Observateur, President Carter’s national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski proudly confirmed Gates’ assertion. ‘According to the official version of history,’ Brzezinski said, ‘CIA aid to the mujahidin began during 1980, that’s to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan. But the reality, kept secret until now, is completely different: on 3 July 1979 President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And on the same day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained that in my opinion this aid would lead to a Soviet military intervention.’
“Asked whether he in any way regretted these actions, Brzezinski replied: ‘Regret what? The secret operation was an excellent idea. It drew the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? On the day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, saying, in essence: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam War.’”
All the war profiteers are saying is; not a chance, because there are no profits in peace!