They didn’t hear you the first time and won’t hear you now’ only thing they will understand is to make them afraid with Direct Action on one or more of them.
So…The only way to to defeat them is to become them?
I think maybe THE TRUTH was speaking in a reality check kind of way. I have thought that thought too. “Thoughts and prayers,” seem lame when kids are killed in classrooms---- people killed anywhere really, like at a restaurant or shopping , or a music festival too.
Sill it’s hard to resist making fun of that NRA and Wayne La Pierre, when he talks about ," being surrounded by good guys with guns." The irony would be that at an NRA convention, and "being surrounded by good guys with guns, I think many would enjoy hearing this " … surround by good guys with guns,Wayne La Pierre was shot in the rear and couldn’t sit down for a long while. "Am I condoning violence…nah----just justifiable bahookie pain. for a real pain in the ass man. : )
Today, I wore again the badge I made a day after the MSD mass shooting with a photo of Jaime Guttenburg and a candle flame that will never be extinguished. Even after effective national laws that curtail gun violence are passed, I’ll never forget Jaime. I’ll remember her life for all the time of my life she won’t live.
Keep the movement alive. Keep the pressure on the NRA, the Congress, state legislatures, and the media. Although slowly, the nation will change. One day we’ll wake-up to find our society is a calmer and safer one, more like our European allies. Unbridled freedom is a freedom we must free ourselves from. A secure and sane society requires that deadly objects and unstable people be limited and controlled.
I am eagerly awaiting the day when the US achieves this necessary goal.
Mind you, I am not opposed to self defense. There are those who would never strike back or fight off an attacker because they are that non-violent oriented. What I will never condone is opposing ideas with preemptive violence, but that seems to be the mindset that engulfs much of the so-called antifa movement.
You say you are a Nazi? Okay, then I have a right to beat you up or kill you for that, even if all you have done is talk.
Except that the Nazis and white supremacists are too smart today to start a fight, but they will come armed and taunt the counter-demonstrators until someone throws the first punch. Then, they will kill.
Saying that their philosophy is so abhorrent and wrong that I can totally discard all my non-violent beliefs and principles to stop them from expressing it is not only hypocritical, it is unconstitutional. When the first amendment was written, it was known that it would protect even abhorrent speech, but it was felt that it was necessary anyway.
It’s about drawing lines, after all, and if extreme right wing speech is to be grounds for attacking the speakers, then extreme left wing speech carries the same consequences. Soon enough, the extremes become less well defined, and conservatives are Nazis, socialists are communists, and everyone is justifying attacking everyone else until we have a civil war.
So far, none of the past or present wars have solved all or even most of the problems of humankind, and the only one that ever will is the one that takes all the humans out with it. Massive, peaceful counter protests everytime they stage one of these things is essential, as is massive voting to keep them out of the governing process. Random beatings and killings of individuals is 100% counterproductive and will only strengthen those we oppose.
If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.
William S. Burroughs
Violence is an evil thing, but when the guns are all in the hands of the men without respect for human rights, then men are really in trouble.
The problem is not the availability of guns, it is the availability of morons.
This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem, and a tyranny problem disguised as a security problem.
Unfortunately the NRA has morphed into something more sinister than a gun club. Your pointer was enlightening though …
“Liberals” promoting NRA propaganda and gun violence. Whoopee.
NRA conservatives disarming liberals to promote rape, pillage and plunder.
What’s really ironic is that firearms are prohibited on the floor of NRA conventions. Do you suppose that Mr. LaPierre knows something about his membership that he’s not sharing with the rest of us?
There is a real test of how much progressives will demand divorce from any pro-NRA candidate. Both major party candidates for Governor of Ohio, Republican Mike DeWine, and the nearly sainted former head of the Consumer Financial Protection Board, Democrat Richard Cordray, are BOTH members and tools of the NRA, and both oppose any additional gun control measures for Ohio. The ONLY candidate for Governor of Ohio who is NOT a tool or member of the NRA, is Green Party candidate Constance Gadell-Newton, who stands for common sense gun control, is proud to not take ANY lobbyist or corporate money, and supports the entire progressive agenda. You will have some difficulty finding out a lot about her because the corporate media and the establishment do not want you to think you have any other choices in candidates. The Green Party owns the gun control issue in Ohio. If you want to send the rulers a clear message in November, then vote for Connie!
Because historically, armed liberals have prevented rape, pillage and plunder.
Now that the NRA conservatives are disarming liberals by promoting unlimited gun rights for everyone, everywhere, we can expect to be raped, pillaged and plundered unmercifully unless we form vigilante mobs and start the war ourselves.
Yeah, makes perfect sense…
“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…”
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
“To disarm the people…[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them.”
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution , June 14, 1788
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution , October 10, 1787
“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves.”
- Thomas Paine, “Thoughts on Defensive War” in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775
“The only way to peace is perpetual war.”
—No one, Ever
The only way to profits is perpetual war