[The following is an imagined 1932 New York Daily News editorial board interview with Franklin Roosevelt during his presidential campaign. The Daily News comments below derive from the editorial board’s interview with Bernie Sanders on April 1, 2016.
The 1% labeled FDR radical and accused him of betraying his fellow blue bloods. Fortunately the voters did not.
Thank you, Les Leopold. I think you did a brilliant job of demonstrating what today's political climate would have meant to FDR and his policies.
This is a TERRIFIC comparative piece of journalism.
Having recently read Michael Parenti's book on the Assassination of Julius Caesar, I can state with certainty that pretty much the same bullying goes back nearly 3000 years:
"FDR: Here is an amazing paradox! The very employers and politicians and publishers who talk most loudly of class antagonism and the destruction of the American system now undermine that system by this attempt to coerce the votes of the wage earners of this country. It is the old threat to close down the factory or the office if a particular candidate does not win. It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them."
Oligarchs have had MANY generations to get their shtick down pat!
Keep your friends close, your enemies closer. They have talents you don't (my thought). FDR was very wise.
I suggest Mr. FDR ask that reporter or that CNN moderator if s/he has the full details of the plan how the big bad banks were scheming to fleas the American taxpayers and wreck the economy a year after 2008, by 2009, 2010 or 2016? We want full details and people responsible for implementing it.
Actually FDR helped the big fat bastards postpone a certain labor lead revolution by regulating or placing a ring around the necks of the vulture capitalists until Ronnie took it off. And look at the mess we are in toady.
Yes indeed, three times's a charm
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Do Murkin voters want a bunch of facts getting in the way of all the great stories Democratic Party and GOP candidates tell ?
Just brilliant, thanks Les Leopold! i used to have FDR's quote about reckless banking as one of my e-mail sigs.
Hopefully Bernie Sanders is growing the coalition that can and will rebuild/restore the party of FDR and Eleanor! The values and direction Sanders represents is dedicated to the Common Good and sustainable-egalitarian future for the 99%, the "American Dream", so-called. The DLC corporate/banker wing of the Democratic Party sold-out American workers, middle class and poor to enrich themselves and those they serve, the 1%! Extreme wealth and corrupt power has for far too-long used our republic and people as serfs - wage and debt-interest slaves - to their greed and usury - entrenched economic parasites, propped-up by the power of extreme wealth - it's way overdue for a sea-change!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/secret-and-lies-of-the-bailout-20130104 - Some older history very relevant to this election
Can a talisman be verbal??
A few facts about FDR:
1. His greatest strength over Herbert Hoover, his opponent in the '32 election, and Alf Landon his opponent in the '36 election was his willingness to try anything in an effort to put people back to work and spur economic recovery.
However, despite all of his tinkering and efforts the economy did not recover until the beginning of preparations for WWII which began in the '39-'40 time period. It was warfare and not government redistribution programs that enabled the economy to recover. This fact was not lost on other presidents from Harry Truman in '45 to "Dumbya" in 2001.
2. FDR lied through his aristocratic teeth in the '40 election when he pledged to keep the US out of another war in Europe. He was already financing the purchase by Britain of mothballed US destroyers in order to help that nation to guard its many convoys which were being torpedoed to the bottom of the sea. His administration also ordered the US Navy Pacific fleet to be moved from San Diego to Pearl Harbor in Hawaii as a provocation to the Japanese.
Admiral Husband Kimmel was promoted to Commander of the Pacific fleet in February 1941 replacing Admiral James Richardson who was removed from the command over differences about how the ships stationed there would be used. The War Department specifically ordered that the ships were to remain in port unless ordered otherwise by Washington.
That is the principle reason that the Japanese had such easy pickings on 12-07-41 when they attacked. Both the State and the War Department had copies of decoded Japanese messages indicating that an attack would happen sometime in the first two weeks of December and never passed the word along to Kimmel. The US had set a deadline for Japan to withdraw from Chinese operations or suffer a trade embargo by the US.
FDR wanted war with Japan as a way to back into war with Germany (due to the Axis Treaty obligations of Germany, Italy, Japan and Hungary for mutual defense of each other in case of attack) in order to save the UK's rear end from what in 1940-41 looked like certain occupation by the Nazis.
3. Retired Marine General Smedley Butler turned into congress (after making sure that several newspapers were given the story to break it to the public beforehand) the details of a cabal of businessmen who were plotting a coup-de-tat to replace FDR with somebody more to their liking.
Butler named names and disclosed all of the planning of which he was aware. Butler gave FDR and the overwhelmingly Democratic congress a gold-plated opportunity to smash the very worst of the big businessmen plotting against his administration and neither FDR nor the Democratic congress ever did anything with the information.
Organized money triumphs again.
Text of Bernie's Break up the Big Banks Legislation Introduced in May 2015.
Actually FDR didn't just save his own class from itself but capitalism as well, of which that class was the biggest beneficiary. And yes, it's a sad reality that 'The Universal Declaration of Human Rights' is probably as well known in this country as the Dresden Codex. It's the wrong kind of history. The late historian Howard Zinn wrote “A People's History of the United States” which details quite a bit of that 'wrong history'.
I'm always late getting into these commentary sessions. The audience is usually gone but its interesting to hear the echo from the back rows.
You stated “It was warfare and not government redistribution programs that enabled the economy to recover.” The reason that WW ll increased the economy almost four fold was that the wartime economic policies were an implementation of Keynesianism on steroids. It was virtually a command economy; wage and price controls, allocation of resources. That is what fixes economies and not wars per se. For a couple of years after WW ll there was pent-up consumer demand after years of wartime austerity. But by 1948 the economy started to drop. The workings of the economy were essentially no different than they were in the years prior to the war. But now it was known what would work.
The policy makers realized they had two choices. A continuation of Keynesian macroecononomics done openly which benefited the general public (infrastructure, education, transportation, medical, job creations in general) and analysis showed that this had a democratizing effect due to the public's understandable interest. The public would get involved. The other choice was to funnel the government money to the Pentagon where it could be distributed out to certain dynamic sectors of the economy, at the time areas like metallurgy, electronics, aviation. This also allowed control by the elites who would benefit handsomely themselves but not the public in general. But how to get the public to accept. Fear. Fear of an enemy. The Russian threat. The gift that gave and gave and gave. The public would have little information about what company got what contract for a certain fight/bomber aircraft. It gave almost no interest for the public and thus was very undemocratizing. We know what choice was taken. This game was played throughout the Cold War and beyond with terrorism replacing the Russian threat, although that part of US foreign policy is still a target. But then what in the world isn't?
Another topic you brought up was Roosevelt's desire to enter into a war with Japan. Of that there's no secret. The British, Dutch and American embargo on Japan was not for humanitarian reasons about helping China. The West could not of cared less. What the West wanted was access to China. Japan retorted that the Western imperial nations all had Monroe Doctrine like policies and Japan wanted their own. That didn't go over well in the West with its half a millennium of aggression and colonialism. Japan strongly relied on imports. We know the rest.
As far as FDR wanting to get involved with the conflicts in Europe, Winston Churchill was pulling out all stops to do just that. Just as Britain got the US into World War l. Think of your early school years when you were studying US history. Recall what the US population was called. Isolationists. The British propagandists got the US elites and near elites to con the population. This actually was the genesis of institutional propaganda in this country. As for the US war with Germany, the US didn't initiate it. A few days after the Pearl Harbor attack Germany declared war on the US and only then did the US declare war with Germany.
Keynsian economics only works when there is something to offer as collateral for the profligate printing of money. Otherwise extreme inflation follows as it did in Weimar Germany after WWI. What the US had to offer at that time (as typified by FDR's initial and most famous inaugural address in 1933) was a land rich in natural resources and a skilled work force and large and intact industrial and agricultural base.
WWII allowed the US to use these resources to create the "arsenal of Democracy" and basically outproduce the axis powers. It also unleashed the genius of improved production methods wherein US industry was able to produce more with fewer workers (thereby allowing 10 million men to be drafted into military service without missing a beat in wartime production of the implements of war).
In 1945 Truman and the congress faced the dilemma of what to do with those 10 million men most of whom would be mustered out of military service.
Industry didn't need them because they had boosted production per hour worked in the work force so greatly that they could do more with fewer employees. The rest of the world had been devastated by the world war that had consumed it for the previous 6 years and were broke financially speaking.
Enter the GI bill which sent many young men to college and was paid for by the government.
Also, the Marshall Plan that gave billions in credit to the devastated countries abroad with the caveat that they spend that aid on US produced goods.
And, of course, at the base of it all was the new enemy (our former ally who were responsible for chewing up about 80% of the Nazi war machine and paid a really fearsome price by losing more casualties than the rest of the allies combined).
However absurd the notion, the cold war allowed stability to reign and (to quote Orwell) "war" was "peace".
This is the same paradigm that the US is stuck in to this day except the largely worthless US petro-dollar has replaced the resources and industrial capacity of the past as the means by which the control of vital geography and the stealing of the wealth of the rest of the world is facilitated.
Although the dumbed down people of the US are largely ignorant of these realities the rest of the world understands them only too well and they are seeking to undo this monetary conspiracy imposed upon it by the US financial elites.