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Ohio Lawmakers Approve One of Nation's Strictest Abortion Bans


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Ohio Lawmakers Approve One of Nation's Strictest Abortion Bans

Nadia Prupis, staff writer

Ohio lawmakers approved a bill late Tuesday that bans abortion once a fetal heartbeat can be detected. The bill is now headed to Governor John Kasich's desk. If signed, it will be one of the strictest abortion laws in the country.

The so-called heartbeat bill means that abortion could be prohibited as early as six weeks after conception—a point at which many women may not even realize they are pregnant—effectively making it illegal in the state.


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Terrible, but not a surprise. Right-wingers are feeling energized and emboldened by Trump. This is just the beginning.

Looks like Albert was right: we'll be fighting to keep things we already won.


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"An embryo is not a fully human person, but an undeveloped potential person. That status and that potential bears great import. It is ethically and emotionally significant, but not in the same way or of equal status with that of a fully developed, fully human person — a newborn infant, a baby, a toddler, a teenager, or an adult". --Source: Article by Fred Clark at https://disqus.com/home/discussion/slacktivistonpatheos/white_evangelicals_cannot_allow_themselves_to_understand_miscarriage/#comment-3029703579

The false equivalency of an undeveloped potential person with an actual one works to deprive everyone of rights to choose if and when to become a parent.

That is not a decision governments have any authority to interfere with.


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The argument isn't really about parenthood. I think most (if not all) states have laws that allow a woman to give away her offspring immediately after birth. People are not forced to become parents.

Even if the equivalency of fetus to post-birth person is false, the status of the human fetus "is ethically and emotionally significant". Perhaps this significance is enough to warrant the protection of the life of that fetus.


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And just who is the governator of Ohio: none other than John Kasich who will make his pal in the state due west of Ohio, VP-elect Pence so very proud. There is not a pair between them because the Koch (as in hock) bros. have them tightly bound. T-baggers for T-dump whose sole purpose in public office is self-aggrandizement at the expense of the health and well-being of women and their families. What next, stockades erected in city and town squares along with lashes on the backs of women who sought medical procedures to save their and their families' health and well-being? Public stonings? Incarceration? The Saudis are also cheering at the prospect.

Will the vilification and outright punishment of women by these zealots never end?

Guess not...anytime soon.


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Obviously you have never carried a child full term nor given birth nor been intimately involved in a close female friend or relative's pregnancy. To force a woman to carry a fetus full-term and give the infant up for adoption is the GREATEST punishment both emotionally and physically. You would choose to turn the clock back on the hard-fought progress of women in the US to the 1960's...pre- Roe v Wade when desperate women sought to end their unwanted pregnancies at the hands of butchers in back alleys, seedy motels, or at their own hand using wire hangers or screwdrivers. (The wealthy women simply called their private physician for a private procedure or flew to Germany or Finland for the procedure). Go back to your bomb shelter, read your bible, and chant your hymns and leave society the Hell alone!


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Ethically and emotionally significant does not imply that an embryo has a
presumptive personhood and 'rights of persons' so outstanding that any
reasonable person would say that actual persons must forfeit their rights
to their achievements and opportunities, health or to life and to choose to
not become a biological parent who, in your world, ought to then
give up her born child to adoption or foster care. Not wanting to be a
parent at any point in life starts, for women, with not wanting to become
pregnant and forced to become a biological parent.

A woman's fertility is not her prison.


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Exactly. And why don't we make viagra illegal for men?


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I second that. I guess they hate their mothers and other female relatives.


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Call your member of congress, as well as the main street news and tell them to broadcast about this fiasco. The million woman march scheduled in Jan after the inaugeration is supposed to bring many men along for the ride as well. These people are insane and embarrassing. Women's bodies and minds are not political fodder anymore than men's are. Let's call for the illegal sale of viagra and see how up in arms they are. And DT is an old man.


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What????? That is a personal issue. You're probably the type to outlaw birth control ( including condoms) as well. This is not a political issue. Hey, why does the rnc who wants small government always go to the bedrooms of other people?


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Thank you, and if someone does not want to have an abortion , she does not have to have one. However, to interfere in someone else's decsion is just sick.


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Hey there- Earth to you: What if a woman is raped or if incense is committed? And please don't give me this nonsense that the baby ( if there is any) is more important than the woman. You must really love your mother and any other females as well.


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You're very welcome!


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I am so ashamed to live in Ohio right now. Between the so-called "Heartbeat Bill" and the new law they just passed allowing concealed carry in day cares, college campuses, etc. (right after the OSU incident, no less), Ohio is going down the toilet fast. It's hard to believe that it happened here, instead of one of the more politically backward southern states.

We owe much of this debacle to the absurd Ohio gerrymandering that actually got us national attention in recent years. In my particular situation, I have a state legislator who is ultra-conservative and beholden to the Tea Party and private interests. While I reside in a mostly Democratic city, the Republicans who dominate the county above us have gerrymandered a penis-like extension into our city that will encapsulate one of the most progressive areas of the city. Effectively disenfranchising us as a minority in that district. The conservative Republican legislators here have totally coopted the minority Democrats. The former are bought, sold, and delivered express to the highest bidder . . . which certainly isn't the voter.

But there's something else going on in Ohio and it deserves to be studied. Besides experiencing a growing rust-belt phenomenon, the rural areas are becoming increasingly conservative and the highest Trump vote was there. We shouldn't have lost Cleveland in this election, but that seemed to be about anti-Clinton sentiment. Yet, Sanders was very popular here. That leaves us to our own conclusions.

We can only hope that Gov. Kasich, who has become a surprising voice of reason compared with the other Republicans in this state, will have the decency to veto these bills. He is a Catholic who occasionally actually votes his conscience.