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Panic in Trumpland, But Clinton Camp Should Be Wary


#1

Panic in Trumpland, But Clinton Camp Should Be Wary

Bill Blum

Even before the Manafort/Gates indictment was unsealed and Papadopoulos' guilty plea revealed, Trump's most dogged boosters were displaying signs of what can aptly be termed a collective nervous breakdown.


#2

Duelling dossiers! Twelve hackers hacking, eleven liars lurking, and a dotard in a bare tree!

Here’s my modest proposal: let the US electorate take a mulligan. Let’s call a new election 8 weeks hence, in which neither Trump nor Clinton are on the ballot, and let the chips fall where they may.


#3

Or fire the perps, take away politician’s power to decide everything, and let the people make the big decisions by secure referendums.


#4

If a minor side effect of the Mueller investigation includes the crippling of the Clinton crew (though it must be stated that a mass jailing of Dumpsters must occur first and foremost), then it would be an unintended beneficial thing.


#5

Taking down both Trump and Hillary on the same charge?

Well damn, Yo…let those wheels of justice turn.


#6

Bernie 2020, as an INDEPENDENT.


#7

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent ~

Trump MUST be IMPEACHED !!

:us:


#8

Why are articles from this site (ie Truthdig) so long? Or am I confusing the site with TomDispatch, which is too long to bother with. Get to the point.


#9
    'They told me you had been to her,
      And mentioned me to him:
    She gave me a good character,
      But said I could not swim.

    He sent them word I had not gone
      (We know it to be true):
    If she should push the matter on,
      What would become of you?

    I gave her one, they gave him two,
      You gave us three or more;
    They all returned from him to you,
      Though they were mine before.

    If I or she should chance to be
      Involved in this affair,
    He trusts to you to set them free,
      Exactly as we were.

    My notion was that you had been
      (Before she had this fit)
    An obstacle that came between
      Him, and ourselves, and it.

    Don't let him know she liked them best,
      For this must ever be
    A secret, kept from all the rest,
      Between yourself and me.'

#10

And Pence, with his phony ugly rectitude, will be left standing …


#11

I don’t think so, he was a big part of the transition – with ties to Flynn – I think he’s in it as deep as many of the trumpsters are.


#12

Just the tip of the iceberg.

Let’s all hope Trump’s head explodes soon as Mueller starts pounding the first nails in Trump’s coffin.


#13

Sure, the Republican administration is corrupt as hell - but even gross fiduciary malfeasance won’t arouse the atomized, stay at home parts of the Democratic mass base; nor shake a right wing base that chose a right wing demagogue over an establishment Democratic Party in bed with big money.

Sure, Democrats and progressives should pursue the right for its many crimes - but this must not distract from the failure of the dominant right liberal faction of the Democratic Party to incorporate the progressive agenda of half its voters; nor distract from the lack of a progressive movement that mobilizes the enormous number of passive and misled citizens.


#14

Just one quibble, Bill. How do you characterize the former democratically-elected government of Ukraine as “pro-Russian”? In contrast to the current fascist coup government, the Viktor Yanukovych regime did maintain diplomatic and business ties to Russia, but did the same with European, US and NATO powers. Seems you’ve got a touch of the “Russia must be behind this” tunnel-vision virus that plagues the MSM.

An unanswered question is, why would Manafort’s Ukraine payments span these 2 governments with diametrically-opposed views on Russia, if Manafort’s work had anything to do with Russia? Additionally not addressed is how the overlapping period of Manafort’s work with the Trump campaign and these payments from a virulently anti-Russian regime (2016) could in any way create a friendly atmosphere for Russian collusion. It makes no sense.


#15

I really don’t think Flynn, or anything regarding “collusion” is the issue. And indeed, in the indictments, there was nothing of any substance regarding such issues. The real issues have to do with Trump’s connections to the mafia, both the NY/NJ mafia in the 80’s and before (NYC construction, Atlantic City casinos), and the Russian mafia subsequently (real estate as money laundering). Robert Parry has some useful comments on this. There’s more that I won’t search for now, but Papadopoulos is a low level & irrelevant character who has been caught lying to the FBI and now seems to be giving them what he thinks they want. There is zero corroboration of his claims and a great deal of reason to believe them untrue, including from people completely unrelated to US politics.