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Poll Driven Spin Doctors in the Age of Big Money Elections


#1

Poll Driven Spin Doctors in the Age of Big Money Elections

John Atcheson

For too long, candidates from both parties have been conducting a cynical game of asking us what we want to hear, then feeding it back to us in carefully managed sound bites, while they dance to the tune of corporations and the uber rich.

Leadership? At its best, this is like using a hood ornament to navigate. In practice, it results in a shameful mix of mush-mouthed lies of omission and outright lies of commission.

But for the first time in ages, we have an alternative.

Let’s look at the field.


#2

Thirty-five years ago Americans elected a man who claimed that "government was not the solution, but rather the problem" and we all know what happened. Disfunction junction. Clinton I, Obama, and Clinton wanna-be II all step through the tulips of ambiguity knowing that the masses will not notice. Now that there is a new voice percolating up through toxic political brew, he (Bernie) is consistently demonized for not being perfect. This arm chair quarterback will admit that that is all I am. Bernie's got my positive attention for now for his consistency in championing causes for the American people. Damn the polls, full speed ahead.


#3

You said (totally in keeping with the orchestrated "Blame Voters" Frank Luntz memorandum):

"Disfunction junction. Clinton I, Obama, and Clinton wanna-be II all step through the tulips of ambiguity knowing that the masses will not notice..."

First of all, the term is dysfunction.

Secondly, this is not about what the masses notice or otherwise. It's about POWER. In a Vichy Democracy, the veneer of democratic mechanisms remains in place but the real power goes to behind the scenes players: corporate moguls, ruling elite families, media kings, and the MIC... the muscle to hold all that is patently unfair... in place.

In case you didn't notice, polls show that voters DO notice and poll affirmatively towards most Progressive causes. Also, the trend of Inverted Totalitarian control is global, and therefore not about American voters, per se.


#4

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disfunction


#5

From my Mac

dysfunction | disˈfəNGkSHən|
noun
abnormality or impairment in the function of a specified bodily organ or system: bowel dysfunction.
• deviation from the norms of social behavior in a way regarded as bad: inner-city dysfunction.


#6

Healthy Forests Initiative was not just Repubs.

This from the forest industry:

In 2012, U. S. Forest Service researchers supporting the NCA concluded: "By the end ... partnership initiatives to address the problems of the O&C at risk forests and ... Oregonians should be grateful especially to Congressmen DeFazio, Walden ... and Senator Wyden for addressing the needs for healthy forests...

http://forestindustry.com/feature-article/200/oregon-s-o-c-forest-lands-rest-story

Yep. Even DeFazio. When it really counts to give that "nay," he supports it instead.

GO Bernie!


#7

I would love to know the story behind much of the media marketed to libs, which went all-out to sell H. Clinton, with her long record of support for the right wing agenda -- pro-war, anti-poor, pro-corporate empowerment, anti-New Deal. On core socioeconomic policies, Clinton is (incredibly) well to the right of former Republican presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, even Reagan. As this article points out, it is interesting to review her statements in recent years as they changed to reflect the perceived views of Dem voters.

Regardless, this is just the pre-game entertainment. The VP usually goes on to run for president, and VP Joe Biden is expected to launch his campaign by early 2016. Any Dem pol can then challenge him for the nomination, and the primaries will determine which one goes on to run in 2016. I personally think the biggest problem faced by potential Dem voters is that there is little consensus about some of our most critical issues. Media remain focused on middle class consumers and campaign donors.


#8

The difficult question: Which American people? We been divided and subdivided by class and race. The US itself is about its economy. Sen. Sanders was once a powerful speaker about US poverty (Can't save/rebuild the middle class without shoring up the poor.) Then, presumably reflecting post-(B)Clinton lib media, he jumped on the Middle Class Only bandwagon for a while. Most recently, he acknowledges low wage workers. The thing is, the longer Dems disregard the poor, and the US ignores our poverty crisis, the wider and deeper it grows (for reasons we learned about back in our US Economics classes). "Trickle down economics," this generation's response to our poverty crisis, still doesn't work. Complex issues, but our own modern history shows why this is not a solution.


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#10

But it's more complicated than that.From Reagan's deregulation mania to Clinton ending actual welfare and signing onto NAFTA, these are choices that our middle class demanded or supported. Likely Dem voters today are even more deeply divided by class, and the Dem Party itself is divided.

Democrats must appeal to middle class campaign donors, yet they can't win without the votes of the poor -- and that puts them into a very difficult position. The poor and middle class today have VERY different priorities.

That said, I suppose it depends on what one regards as "progressive causes." Everything from the fundamental quality of life in the US to the ability of the US itself to grow economically, surviving in the modern world market, requires legitimately addressing (reversing) our poverty crisis -- restoring the rungs on the ladder out of poverty. Dems and liberal avoid this issue, beyond essentially supporting trickle down economics. Our poverty crisis has not been a progressive cause.


#11

`
CNN Poll Among Registered Voters, posted 7/26:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2179399/cnn-orc-poll-2016-election-9-a-m-july-26-2015.pdf

Hillary Clinton:
Favorable______ 44%
Unfavorable____ 49%
Never heard of__ 1%
No opinion______ 5%

Bernie Sanders:
Favorable_______ 24%*
Unfavorable_____ 23%
Never heard of___ 38%
No opinion______ 14%

*George McGovern received 38% of the votes in 1972,
but only one state in the electoral college (MA).
`


#12

"Ms Clinton’s campaign has already spent $1 million on polling, focus groups, and assorted other “messaging” strategies. She’s not doing this so she can tell us the truth – she’s doing it so she can tell us what she thinks we want to hear."

Hillary Clinton is the very most repugnant politician we have see since Karl Rove invented George W Bush. And, yes, I admit, Obama is down there in the gutter with those two evil dog doo charmers.


#13

Hey Susan, did you see where FDR is part of the "blame the voters" tag team? Check out this heinous quote:

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.” -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Can you believe it? "If the people tolerate"! How dare FDR "blame the people" for the growth of private power?

The depth of the psy-op is just staggering!


#14

Boy, it's fun to watch Susan Rose and DHF converse! What a couple of open-minded, humble, positive contributors! Nothing but useful nuggets!


#15

"First of all, the term is dysfunction."

Hey, isn't this like the 80th time you've called someone out for misusing words but it turns out you're wrong?

Hey, how come you never reply to anyone who simply points out you're wrong?

Hey, maybe you should quit being such an uptight scold?