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Progressive Groups Say Biden-Warren Ticket Best Way to Excite Voters and 'Win the White House'

Why do progressive groups like compulsive liars? Two of them on one ticket would be a bit much.


You are correct.
The voter suppressions due to C-19 moving us to mail in ballots.
Where the state sec’y of state can design ambiguous instructions for signatures, clerks initials, etc.

Wayne County Michigan.= Detroit
36,000 third party prez votes in 2016 provided Trump wins the state. Polls there were wrong because they used exit polss from 2008, Obama sweep, to model 2016. They stupidly did not account for demographic changes such as deaths of oldersm and move outs of folks looking for jobs.

This coming November, will Michigan go to Joe? Will Wayne county?

Democrats can only win if they gain young people registering to vote and becoming interested in governance at every levlel. Local, county, state and federal.

What if republicans appoint a decent person as VP candidate?
President McDonalds may have health issues but the Navy doc may be able to keep him on the path for a few more years ruining our society, economy, freedoms.

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When only one side is involved in the negotiations it’s not compromise. Compromise requires two sides, the corporate side can’t compromise, only decide how much to take this time.


When it works better than lies for increasing their families net worth?

When we stop being “informed” by corporate media?

Never, it’ll be all lies now, right up to the end.

“WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hundreds of officials who worked for former Republican President George W. Bush are set to endorse Democratic White House hopeful Joe Biden, people involved in the effort said, the latest Republican-led group coming out to oppose the re-election of Donald Trump.”

(Source: ~https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-hundreds-of-george-w-bush-administration-officials-to-back-biden-group-says/ar-BB16c78R?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout)

Many people griped that the Obama-Biden years were Bush 3 & 4. Do these Dubya alums expect a Biden administration to be Bush 5 & 6? Will Cheney be Biden’s VP?


Thanks for the info. I didn’t realize my setup was all wrong anyway. There is a Democratic primary election BEFORE (July 14th is the date I saw) the RCV election with Lisa Savage in November. So Betsy is likely not even going to be there in November.

Hopefully it goes without saying that in November, anybody in Maine who prefers the Democratic pic to Lisa Savage, will still vote Lisa Savage over Susan Collins (or not even rank Susan Collins since there is nobody Collins needs to be picked before).

I saw there was an interview of Savage on the Humanist Report, but I haven’t caught that one yet. I really like Howie Hawkins - hopefully Savage is equally impressive.

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CounterPunch had this interview a few weeks ago: ~https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-hundreds-of-george-w-bush-administration-officials-to-back-biden-group-says/ar-BB16c78R?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

The interview lasts about 70 minutes. If you’re accustomed to gibberish Joe’s incoherent babbling and Trump’s incomplete sentences, you may need a few minutes to adjust your mind to the interview. Lisa speaks in complete sentences and holds a train of thought long enough to convey real thinking.

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Strike “excite” add “nauseate”.

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Thanks Dara. I’m taking a break from listening to it at the moment. I’ve been leaning to the “those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution necessary” point of view.

But the link makes me question that view. (Not necessarily dismiss it entirely.) It’s fascinating listening to a rational discussion of, essentially, the logic of violence.

It is a compelling point that the sociopolitical effects of actions are not entirely intrinsic to the actions themselves, but that the way the media describe those actions may have as much or more impact than the acts themselves. And, while we can’t control media framing, it’s wise to consider the wisdom of providing the media with ammunition they can use against us.


The Trump banner in my neighbors yard says “keep America great” and Biden promises nothing will change, so finally we have an all Truth battle. The Republicans say they’ll keep doing what’s being done, and the Democrats confirm nothing will change. Trump says Biden is crooked and unfit, and Biden says Trump is crooked and unfit. Hell the Democrats just backed a woman who doesn’t think Mitch McTurtle pushes Trumps agenda enough over a guy who wanted some policies to change. It couldn’t be any clearer what’s on offer if we keep supporting the parties the corporations and oligarchs own.


The only way to change this is to expose the trade deals underneath the bad policy, because they are THE very real roadblock to success.

Were it not for them Pelosi, McConnel, Schumer, and Trump/Biden would not have this thing they could point to behind the scenes in their secret meetings and say you must do this because these rules say we must.

Seriously, there is no way out unless we leave them soon. Its the only thing that actually addresses the core problem. Anybody who doesn’t support that is a DNCRNC mole because they want to hide the source of the sellout…

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They want to lose. They cant win because the things they would be expected to do are all forbidden by a trade deal.

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Liz’s snake emojis were well-earned.

The DNC cares about winning? Sorry, they care about fundraising, first, last and always.


You can’t just look at who would complete a winning ticket, you also have to consider who would make a good president if required by the loss of the presidential nominee. Senator Warren. I submit would make a very good president, probably better than even the presidential nominee.

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What a horrible nominee Biden is. No VP candidate can put lipstick on this pig.


“probably” ?

What a low low bar to meet.

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Why am I not excited…?

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She is, or used to be into the Law and Economics Movement. Which I think is one of the worst things thats changed in our society.

I have NO IDEA who these progressive groups polled, but there’s a few little issues regarding Senator Warren… aside of the obvious baggage with her lies about being Native American.

First, is that the Massachusetts Senator has sold out everyone and everything she’s presumably been allied with, from the CFPB to “Her People” at Standing Rock.

And the others are strictly political, since her possible election as VP would mean the Republican governor, Charlie Baker would pick her replacement, and Biden choosing her (or any other senator) would indicate the Democrats have no real intention of flipping the Senate to take control away from #DonniesBitchMoscowMitch.