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'Reprehensible': Critics Explode After Trump Tweets Impeachment Could Lead to 'Civil War'

Originally published at http://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/09/30/reprehensible-critics-explode-after-trump-tweets-impeachment-could-lead-civil-war

Newsflash: We are already in a “civil” war.


This sort of petulant reaction was all too predictable on the part of Orange Anus. What makes it dangerous are the myriad of cracker doodles lemmings ‘cultivated’ by the Conservative Infotainment Complex (who’s tabloid-esque business model calls for ginning up its’ audience). As for me, I’ve been boning up on my karate.


Violence, the working of a tortured mind…Shawn Phillips-sorta. I haven’t any answers only more questions, like, when will cooler minds prevail? The rhetoric is becoming explosive for no reason other than the total failure of the Executive branch of our government.


Jeffress told the hosts that "impeachment is the only tool [Democrats] have to get rid of Donald Trump and the Democrats don’t care if they burn down and destroy this nation in the process."

But see, that’s the purpose of having a Trump in this office in the first place, so to, as Grover Norquist famously stated, shrink government down to where it could be “drowned in a bathtub.”

They want it both ways; they want to eliminate government and the Constitution and remake the country as something they envision, but something that never was; they want to subvert the rule of law, and all the while they are doing this, they want to say it is not them, but Democrats, (the party of big government,) which is at fault. Destroying the government would “destroy this nation,” but they cannot make that connection.

When Jerry Falwell established the law college at Liberty University, it was with the expressed purpose of training evangelical Christian lawyers and jurists who would then infiltrate the government and legally but surreptitiously institute change to a nation run by biblical law. The secular constitution would be discarded and God would rule the nation (presumably through his anointed evangelical lackeys.) Their admiration of the “wisdom” of the founders in securing our right to always be armed with the latest technology in personal weaponry, apparently didn’t carry over to our right to be free from a government of religious bigots bent on persecuting anyone who did not fit their definition of godly.

I agree with the assessment that what happens next will not likely be all-out war, but I fully expect a surge in “patriotic” mass murders. I can only wonder what part the police and military will have in this…


Yes and this latest tirade from Trump sounds to me like a message to his fascist base to make sure their guns are: LOCKED AND LOADED!


There is now enough ‘rope’ having been generated by the mouth of Donald trump for him to be hung out to dry for “treason”. Inciting “civil war” by falsely representing due process and claiming that it is not his abuses but the Constitutional process that would cause “civilwar” - is 21st century ‘dog whistle’ to “his base”.“locked and loaded” also dog whistle - be forewarned, those who might take up arms on behalf of trump are still subject to Constitutional provisions.

From Wiki on 'Treason’

To avoid the abuses of the English law, the scope of treason was specifically restricted in the United States Constitution. Article III, section 3 reads as follows:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

The Constitution does not itself create the offense; it only restricts the definition (the first paragraph), permits the United States Congress to create the offense, and restricts any punishment for treason to only the convicted (the second paragraph). The crime is prohibited by legislation passed by Congress. Therefore, the United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


Tho only civil war that Trump should be concerned with is, the one that his bangs are having with his forehead.

Not a surprising comment from the cracker in chief. He has explored new bounds and gone where few have gone before in narcissistic self delusionment . This twit thinks he is the country and impeaching him would split the country. More likely it would result in the biggest party this nation has ever seen since our forbearers kicked King George’s thugs off the continent.


To avoid the abuses of the English law, the scope of treason was specifically restricted in the United States Constitution. Article III, section 3 reads as follows:

All the Clinton fans who continue to clamor for charges of treason against Trump should read the Constitution. It is, after all, pretty specific as to what constitutes treason, and misogyny and racism are not in the definition.

Conspiring with a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is illegal, but it is not treason. (Ukraine is not an “enemy.”) Violating the emoluments clause is illegal, but it is not treason. Dereliction of duty is not treason.

I also wonder if inciting to riot in order to protect the president from being lawfully impeached and calling it civil war, is the same as calling for war to overthrow the government? Better legal minds than mine wlll have weigh in on that.

The point is that no good purpose is served by hyperbole and insanity. There is surely enough illegality in this administration to impeach without resorting to making up crimes that don’t exist.


This has become trump’s operating procedure. “Up side down cake.” Since some of us promote something akin to Civil War from the left, his typical parry from the right is always now expected. “You’re an idiot. No, you’re an idiot.” Six year old shit.
He has no defense for anything so he accuses others.


Dog whistle to his base. Impeachment too good for Don. People like him and the “reverend” do not belong in the U.S.A. Chuck 'em out.


Whether the Orange Turd committed treason is a matter of opinion - as to what constitutes ‘treason’. But no one needs to prove treason in order to impeach. Under the listing of ‘Obstruction of Justice’, the House committees can list and document dozens of proven occurrences. Under emolument violations, hundreds (if not thousands) of instances. Under dereliction of duty, violation of the constitution, violating national security - more openly flagrant acts than can be replayed in a week of Fox news re-broadcasts. The latest megalomaniacal hallucination tornado is merely further PROOF of the clear and present danger this a**hole presents to this country and the world. I suggest we all keep repeating, as loudly as possible, the words “CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER”, as that seems to justify the expeditious circumvention of legal niceties.

What’s the point of having an extrajudicial, militarized police state if it can’t be put to good use when necessary?


I have to believe the Crumpus’ minions are FAR outnumbered by level-headed, informed, Americans. Civil War? I say, “bring it!”


Right. Wee bit curious that there isn’t an ultimate standard for whether an act is or is not treasonous. Works to Don’s advantage, though.

There no doubt there an element among the US population that would resort to the use of arms and violence against others if their beloved Fuhrer impeached. Trump counts on this and tries to fuel their anger and is in essence giving his blessing.


Interesting that as this is happening here Boris Johnson and his schocktruppen are threatening violence against Labour MPs. Could there be a pattern here?


We may someday see a “Civil War” between the Fascists and the Democratic Socialists.

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I tend to think it is a mirror projection that ‘kicks the can down the road’ to buy time for further criminality on the part of whomever sinks to that sort of assertion. That then makes me wonder… what is the strange “attractor” (to borrow and, in this case bastardize a term from astrophysics and cosmology) in the future that provides a false rationalization for both blatant and subtle criminality? Is the aggregate of the historical abuses considered so dire that the users in their tunnel vision “think” there is no future worth living for?

I wish I knew what that comment was trying to say.

“I tend to think it is a mirror projection that ‘kicks the can down the road’ to buy time for further criminality on the part of whomever sinks to that sort of assertion.”

Does that mean that by charging him with crimes that he did not commit while ignoring those that he did, we will successfully get him out? Does that mean that we should charge him now with crimes that he may commit “down the road”? What does that mean?

Whomever sinks to what assertion?

What do “mirror projection(s)” have to do with anything? What is a “mirror projection”?

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