More money than we can imagine goes to Israel—and as that money has been going there for years—it really is time to stop. I have no idea why this money disappearing down a hole in Israel still functions. I have no idea why nothing happened with the USS Liberty—with the Flotilla, with Rachel Corrie— why Puerto Rico can’t get help–and I have no idea why so much money goes to our own military which hasn’t won any wars since WW 2.
But I do know that Americans need help with jobs and food and shelter and medical
care—and we do need to rebuild infrastructure and create jobs with decent wages, and I really want Israel to stop murdering Palestinians and stealing land --------but even more, I want Israel to pay their own way----- that nation is not the responsibiity of the American taxpayers-
Thank you for your responses----some of which I believe in too-----but it seems that Biden and many in Congress are still living in the 20th century-----and I am wondering if they will ever catch up with the Peope’s and the Earth’s coming reality.
I understand your position - which is based on worst case scenario thinking that I do not believe will come to happen. (take, for example, your Eli Lilly example in bringing a NAFTA trade case against Canada that you brought up yesterday but didn’t pan out as your predictions would assume). I also understand (but don’t buy) the analogy you are making and the legal concepts you are referring to.
I think the dangers to Government services, both because of GATS and because of the corporate powers that run this country, are very real and the relentless drive toward privatization is hurting us badly. However, you have not convinced me that government paid medical services is stopped by GATS rather than the pure political barriers as your interpretation presumes. Personally, I worry way more about GATS fostering the destruction of public education services.
Anyways, I don’t see a need to further debate it with you since I’ve already made about 20 posts on the topic and your position is well known through thousands of posts.
I did look for it on youtube and didn’t find it accessible. I will get to it but most likely not immediately. I’m sure it is very good. I did access information about it. I am aware this is a global issue, and that HIV treatment is controversial, especially in Africa.
Thank you for the recommendation, I did find the trailer which I just accessed again using your link. Please don’t be concerned, I can request it in another way, if it is that important, I can let you know when I do. It isn’t as emergent an issue for me as it is for you. As I said, I am aware there is a problem.
I think we have different perspectives and I’m willing to let it go at that.
How do explain it Zed, are you a doctor or do you work in the Medical field?
I coordinated medical services with existing availability, it was evaluated on a state and federal level and at least two federal agencies. (plus our own medical advisory team) I worked long hours for crappy pay. What do want blood. I’m starting to get annoyed by this.
There is an unfortunate tendency for politicians to view the world as enemy and allies. I protested my own rep’s (Ted Lieu) incredibly poorly formulated opinion about how we should make sure we give Covid vaccines to our allies (India) before our enemies (Iran). It’s as if they have no comprehension that there are actual people living in countries who don’t all go along with everything their government does.
So for whatever reason, regardles of the USS Liberty or any other things Israel does against our interest, they are viewed as a strong ally and I fear it will be a long time before that foreign aid is seriously revisited. Bernie can make noise about it but it’s just noise.
I kind of liked both your and @zed’s answers. You mentioned sanitary practices as a positive feature of American care. I believe you are right. Sterilization of equipment is pretty well done here compared to most countries and things like re-using needles happen rarely in the U.S.
But zed pointed out that if you broadened things a bit to include all types of iatrogenic injury - then the U.S. does quite poorly compared to other developed countries. He is right about that. For example, the gross over-commercialization of medicine here that seeks to have everyone “asking their doctor if the purple pill is right for them” creates a very much over-medicated population and the associated types of deadly side effects we see. Other types of medical errors are also very prevalent in our system because of a mismatch between the skill sets amongst our health care providers and the optimal distribution needed.
I think there many good qualities and as you say things we need to work on. In specialized services, we dealt with quite a bit of that. It was a rare moment in time I think.
I’m wondering if a time out is in order in this discussion. I can say there is propaganda on all sides of this issue (yours too) and a lot of time is taken wading through it. In my experience, without an actual structured discussion, perspective is important. I guess it remains unclear where we begin to benefit from applying some of this information.
If you have unmet medical needs there are options for you.
Hi zed:
So the UK government F***ed over there own citizens??? When did that happen?
Was it that bad when BORIS supposedly had covid and was on a ventilator for 3 weeks-----but hmm, I would have thought that after 3 weeks of that, he would have been a much thinner man--------maybe Boris really didn’t have covid as after 3 weeks he was as fat as when he went into the hospital. : 0
Lets be clear here Zed, you can stop calling me names because in your view I don’t meet your standards. We disagree on somethings. Also, note you never address most of my posts, not even with an objection, that would be a better the time and place for your objection. I think you can stop feeling guilty, most people have some level of unmet medical needs. (not all of them are valid) It is what you do about it is what matters most.
Agree, we are not in a good position on this, evidently you have overlooked who would be implementing your single-payer plans, the very same people by the very same rules. If your goal is to learn more about this then fine, this maybe the right place to do it. I’ve learned a great deal here that I can apply but most of it is not at a global trade agreement level. I understand the process but at my age it isn’t a priority.
It is a journey Zed, finding your niche. You have obvious ability in this area but in my opinion need to work on your application skills. Just my 2 cents. I just don’t appreciate them when you make it personal so I’m taking a time-out.
Hi zed:
Maybe you missed the fact that Jeremy Corbyn was attacked as an anti-semite and became embroiled in a crap attack that was not real-----and the “powers,” who listen to complaints threw him away. Weirdly semites and semitic nations surround Israel but even more weird—most of the zionists are not even semitic… but are American, or eastern European ----Netanyahu is Polish. So pretend racism and lies against Corbyn took down his good work and his good name.
That sounds really bad, seriously I would start thinking of a plan b. Were it not for the fact that we all will age, become ill at some point, and lose everything we love or hate, we do have our own truth and regardless of policy, I doubt that will change. I think your politics does you a disservice but then that is just my truth. See ya.
She refused to force the vote when they actually had that option but now wants to “forge a path towards…” Why the hell do people keep falling for this crap?
There is a very simple litmus test that can be applied here: Any time a supposed m4a advocate does not mention existing investor rights agreements (euphemistically called trade agreements) they are simply lying to you.
Hi zed:
Sadly Truman et al decided to bomb the hell out of No. Korea. American bombed the dams and thousands died. Would you ever trust America after that, if you were NO. Korean?
I don’t have to imagine. I worked with people that were losing their cognitive abilities and eventually their lives for three years. Their medication histories not with standing, there really isn’t a pill for everything. Hostages of a different sort.
